> But beware of "adverse possession"!

Yes, in all seriousness a copyright notice would tend to mitigate against a 
claim of innocent infringement. ("I didn't know it was copyright.")

> Are the airwaves a "tangible medium"?

I would think not but I don't know (and I am not a lawyer and what I wrote 
below is not legal advice, etc., etc.) If you have a serious or meaningful 
copyright issue you need to consult a lawyer licensed in your jurisdiction. 
There, I said it.

> a performance of a work in the public domain could not be copyright

Copyright did not used to cover "performances." Seriously, Congress was worried 
about not wanting to make a kid sneaking into a circus tent a Federal crime! 
That changed back in the late 60's or 70's (?).

> Besides, isn't it a way for the LoC to get free books, records, movies?

Yeah, but I don't think they want most of them. I think a serious storage issue 
there.

Charles

-----Original Message-----
From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf 
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Sent: Tuesday, January 27, 2015 5:42 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: Strange comment in PTF.

On Tue, 27 Jan 2015 15:31:14 -0800, Charles Mills wrote:

>I should add that in general in the US and most countries copyright notices 
>are unnecessary. I compare them to a "Private Property" sign on your front 
>lawn: it would still be private property without the sign, but the sign warns 
>your neighbors that you might be serious about it.
>
But beware of "adverse possession"!
    http://www.dailycamera.com/ci_13100029

>Under current US copyright law and the Berne Convention, copyright inures to 
>the author of a creative work upon the moment s/he "fixes the work in a 
>tangible medium" (including, by statute, computer memory). So if you think up 
>a story and recite it for your friends you do not own a copyright, but as soon 
>as you write the story down or key it into your computer you do, notice or no.
>
Are the airwaves a "tangible medium"?  (I assume tape and disk are).  If a 
performer broadcasts a performance, never having recorded it, may I record it 
off the air without violating copyright?

I understand that in days of yore a performance of a work in the public domain 
could not be copyright.  Old phonograph records of classical music used to bear 
the warning that the performance *times* (e.g. 10:33) were copyright by the 
artist and publisher.
I think things have got saner.

>Similarly copyright registration is a big help in litigation, but you 
>nonetheless own the copyright even if you never pay the government a nickel or 
>fill out any official forms.
>
Besides, isn't it a way for the LoC to get free books, records, movies?

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