Is this an rmm tape batabase or something else.  The reason I ask are that some 
types of applications have challenges with large files. Have you also checked 
out RLS?

The VSAM will need both EA/EF in your dataclas.

Lizette


-----Original Message-----
>From: willie bunter <[email protected]>
>Sent: Oct 22, 2014 12:00 PM
>To: [email protected]
>Subject: Re: QUESTION ABOUT VSAM / VSAM EXTENDED
>
>Lizette,
>
>Here are the answers to your questions.  The dsn is huge and is corrently 
>expanding on to 12 3390-9 volumes.  The file is expanding rapidly that is why 
>I would like to up the primary and secondary allocation from its current space 
>of 
>(4350 4350) to about 7000 4350.  The dsn is a OAM file.
>
>I don't have much info about the application it is just that I got a call to 
>help fix the programmer's abend.  The dsn has about 459,823,707 records.
>
>We would like to place the dsn on 3390-27 volumes instead of the current 
>3390-9 volumes.  This way there won't be much fragmentation as now.  In order 
>to do so we will have to modify the SMS SC routine to treat the dsn as VSAM 
>EXTENDED.
>
>--------------------------------------------
>On Wed, 10/22/14, Lizette Koehler <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> Subject: Re: QUESTION ABOUT VSAM / VSAM EXTENDED
> To: [email protected]
> Received: Wednesday, October 22, 2014, 11:05 AM
> 
> VSAM is VSAM.  Whether
> it is an MQ PSID, DB2 Table, Native Vsam.  They
> generally fall under the same rules.
> 
> Do you want the dataset to
> expand across volumes? Or stay on one volume?  Do
> you want it to be only 4GB, or can it be a VSAM
> that grows?
> 
> Extended means
> go beyond the 4GB limit. Do you have a need to do this? 
> If
> so, then you need to allocate with EA/EF
> for the VSAM.
> 
> If you do not
> want to expand beyond 4GB limit then the allocations will
> go
> up to the 4GB limit and fail the extent
> when you try for that extra byte
> over
> 4GB.
> 
> So, what is your
> requirements.  
> 
> If you
> allocate a VSAM dataset with PRI and SEC then it will expand
> up to
> 4GB if it is not extended as well as
> possibly going across multiple volumes.
> However, if you only allocate a PRI with SEC =
> 0 Then it should stay within
> that one
> allocation.
> 
> 
> What type of allocation do you want?  I
> understand you want to allocate for
> 4GB, but
> why?  You could let the VSAM data set grow naturally as
> needed.  Do
> you have a way to control the
> VSAM file so it will only use this amount of
> data?
> I am thinking that if you
> try to do this, you may have REORGs that will need
> to be done.
> 
> Remember, CISIZE, CASIZE, what type of VSAM
> (KSDS, ESDS, RDS, Linear) will
> all allocate
> slightly different.  
> 
> Could you explain the application in a little
> more detail.  I think it will
> help in
> providing a better targeted answer.
> 
> I am not sure what you mean by OAM datasets. 
> Are you talking about the TCDB
> or other OAM
> Files?  If so, I think they have unique requirements.
> 
> Lizette
> 
> 
> 
> > -----Original
> Message-----
> > From: IBM Mainframe
> Discussion List [mailto:[email protected]]
> On
> > Behalf Of willie bunter
> > Sent: Wednesday, October 22, 2014 6:35
> AM
> > To: [email protected]
> > Subject: Re: QUESTION ABOUT VSAM / VSAM
> EXTENDED
> > 
> > Thanks
> to everybody's input.   However, I still
> don't have a firm answer.
> What is the
> > maximum amount of cylinders should I be
> able to allocate for a VSAM DSN
> without
> > having to make it EXTENDED.
> > 
> > Would this be the
> same critera for OAM dsns as well?
> > 
> >
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