Rex,
My humble opinion is the isolated devices are not in danger even if the microcode has some vulnerabilities. HMC is good example of such device. You don't install anything on that, you don't connect it to the Internet just like PC, the connection to IBM support system is quite different thing. While it's good to fix any vulnerability if possible, I wouldn't worry about bash in HMC.

BTW: many moons ago there was a PC on the top of ESCON Director. IBM 286 with PC-DOS. Should we worry about it's vulnerabilities? Everyone could install Doom on it (assuming 286 was enough). Actually I still have such Director working, but I'm not going to install any game on the PC.


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Radoslaw Skorupka
Lodz, Poland







W dniu 2014-10-01 o 16:06, Pommier, Rex pisze:
Radoslaw,

About whether your microwave is safe or not.  Is it connected to the internet?  If so, it 
may be safe but other devices may not be because of it.  Does it have enough compute 
power and memory for somebody to remotely inject code into it?  Could this code then be 
used to send bogus requests to somebody's server to "help" with a DDOS attack?  
That's where one of the bigger vulnerabilities in this mess is.

I know you're being tongue-in-cheek with the microwave comment, but reading a couple 
articles about the guy who was able to remotely install the game "Doom" on a 
printer and get it working shows some of the ways this thing could be exploited.

Rex

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W dniu 2014-10-01 o 14:51, Dana Mitchell pisze:
On Fri, 26 Sep 2014 18:42:15 +0800, Timothy Sipples <[email protected]> wrote:
As for z/OS, most z/OS customers are likely to be unaffected.

IBM acknowledged that DS8000 HMCs currently  utilize BASH and are thus 
vunerable.

What does it mean? Do you download & install any software on that?
My microwave owen has Linux onboard, unpatched, with bunch of
vulnerabilites. But the only thing I insert there  is food. Is it safe?
:-)




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