In the end, we each have only our own experiences to draw on, and we make 
judgments based on that experience.  Your experiences are obviously different 
from mine, and I respect that.  Due diligence is always required, but it is 
interesting to know there may be successes out there somewhere, FSVO "success".

Peter

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From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf 
Of Mitch
Sent: Monday, January 06, 2014 5:56 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: Innovating an old IMS 3270-based application

Peter (et al):

I have only one comment in regards to your thoughts (below).  when you say 
projects to move off the mainframe have a high rate of failure, it depends on 
how it is done.  One of the vendors I work with has superior success rates in 
regards to conversion/migration from a mainframe to an LUW environment.

Regards,

Mitch



-----Original Message-----
From: Farley, Peter x23353 <[email protected]>
To: IBM-MAIN <[email protected]>
Sent: Mon, Jan 6, 2014 2:51 pm
Subject: Re: Innovating an old IMS 3270-based application


As usual, it depends on how far forward the original "monster application' 
esigners looked (or not...).  If the core business logic is separated from the 
presentation layer" (i.e., if the business logic is well separated from the 
270 screen processing logic), it might be possible to directly re-engineer it 
ith an HTML layer in place of the 3270 layer.
If the screen-handling and the business logic are tightly woven together, not 
so 
asy at all.
I have no experience at all with IMS applications, much less with interfacing 
hem to web browsers, but if the "business function" is well separated from the 
user interaction" parts, it should be possible.
Such projects are never easy, though.  Sometimes, unfortunately, the best 
ecision (financially and time-wise) is to start over from scratch.  For a staff 
ith limited z/OS skills, that could result in a project to move completely off 
f z/OS.  Those kinds of projects have a very high rate of failure.
One other possibility is the use of one of the several "3270-to-browser" 
onversion products I think are out there, which (if I understand the functions 
rovided) take your 3270 screen inputs and outputs and convert them back and 
orth in a web browser.  Not pretty, and almost certainly affects round-trip 
ime from "enter" to results screen, but supposedly quite functional.
All I can say is good luck.  You're going to need it.
Peter
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ent: Monday, January 06, 2014 4:56 PM
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ubject: Innovating an old IMS 3270-based application
Folks,
I wonder if some of you may share the experience and opinions with regards
o approaching a grand task of making an old IMS-based monster application
ore friendlier to users and developers:
- users want web-based access;
- developers are limited in their skills (particularly, z/OS skills)
Specifically, I think of using MQ to intercept/separate 3270-bound flow...
ny advice?
I'd be grateful...
A.I.
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