On 11/6/2013 8:04 AM, Alan Field wrote:
Simply from option 6 I entered SMCOPY

Alan Field
Technical Engineer Principal
BCBS Minnesota

Phone: 651.662.3546  Mobile:  651.428.8826

Ah. In the TSO Command Reference you will see:

"If the source and target of the copy request are both data sets, (SYSOUT or
QSAM), you do not have to be logged on under the Session Manager to use the
SMCOPY command."


Try something like

smcopy fds(from_datasetname) tds(to_datasetname)

note that if 'to_datasetname' does not exist, SMCOPY will create it.


you can also add the option notrans to ensure no translation
of non-printable characters to blanks (e.g., if you have
packed decimal or binary data fields)

you can also add the option 'line(start:end)' to copy a subset of
the source file.

Kind regards,

-Steve







From:   "Steve Comstock" <[email protected]>
To:     [email protected],
Date:   11/06/2013 08:58
Subject:        Re: Aging Sysprogs = Aging Farmers
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On 11/6/2013 7:47 AM, Alan Field wrote:
Possibly because many of us don't run Session manager.

Here's what I get: SESSION MANAGER NOT ACTIVE - SMCOPY IGNORED in
response
to the SMCOPY command.

Alan Field
Technical Engineer Principal
BCBS Minnesota

Phone: 651.662.3546  Mobile:  651.428.8826

Interesting. I knew that the 'SM' in 'SMCOPY' stood for
session manager, but my recent experience has been that
the SMCOPY command has always worked. Must have lucked
out in that session manager was always running where I
happened to test it.

Can you show us the actual command you issued?

Kind regards,

-Steve






From:   "Steve Comstock" <[email protected]>
To:     [email protected],
Date:   11/05/2013 21:39
Subject:        Re: Aging Sysprogs = Aging Farmers
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On 11/5/2013 5:26 PM, David Crayford wrote:
On 6/11/2013 12:37 AM, John Gilmore wrote:
I do of course agree that z/OS is perceived to be boring, but that is
another question.

I don't think it's perceived as boring, certainly it's perceived as
user
hostile. Take Pauls cp command example, it's easy to copy files
using a simple command. For those that prefer GUIs they can drag and
drop or
copy/paste. On the mainframe one has no choice but
to run JCL. JCL certainly is an antique, and a very unpleasant one.


Actually, in a TSO session (analogous to a UNIX session),
you can use the SMCOPY command without JCL. It's just
that most people aren't aware of it.

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