Timothy,

I think you are confusing operational costs with software costs.

Having worked for several ISV's, we were often looking at ways to make running 
our products less expensive.  We charged just as much for them as before and it 
did not stop the 'normal' price increases.  Note: I twiddle the bits, not the 
cents, so pricing is way outside my comfort zone and I pass no judgments on 
that, other than to say if there was no ROI then no one would buy the product.  
And, yes, my degree is in economics.

The specialty engines that you refer to (and the GP processor) are actually all 
the same chip, they are just re-taskings as to what can run on it.  That is why 
another ISV was able to do a little magic and have regular jobs run on a z/IIP 
engine.

IBM is coming up with new specialty add-on cards which is what CryptoExpress 
and others actually are.  These are not in the same category as a GP or z/IIP, 
etc.

Back to your original thought.  Decreasing the operational cost of monitoring 
frees up resources for functions that actually make money, so that is a good 
thing.  The one area that I wish could be improved on is the processing of SMF 
data.  At one shop I worked in, our biggest single application was processing 
the daily SMF data.  The software we used to process it was inexpensive, MXG 
and SAS, but the operational cost was high.

Chris Blaicher
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Subject: Re: Security exposure of zXXP was Re: zIIP simulation



If, on the other hand, you're asking IBM (and other vendors) to spend some of 
their precious engineering talents and efforts on new price discrimination 
features specifically for monitoring, does that really make sense? Let's 
suppose for sake of argument that such new facilities existed, and consequently 
the "price" to run monitoring decreases. OK, then what happens to the prices of 
everything else? And, for that matter, what happens to the prices of monitoring 
tools? These vendors still have payroll to meet, still have R&D to do, still 
have support to deliver, etc.

Will you actually end up with more and better monitoring? Or will the most 
likely outcome be that you run exactly the same (or even less!) monitoring than 
you do today, and your total IT expenditures barely budge (ceteris
paribus) as the various vendors quickly re-establish market equilibrium?

Did anyone else ever study economics? :-)

I rather like the current situation, which is that there are these nifty things 
called zIIPs which vendors can choose to use as much or as little as they wish 
according to their particular individual business models (and with an IBM 
agreement). That is, there are already *plenty* of ways tools vendors can price 
discriminate if/as they wish and if/as competitive markets require. zEnterprise 
already has the most sophisticated, widest variety of metrics for vendors to 
price their wares compared to any other platform. And 1,000+ flowers have 
bloomed. Name any pricing design you want, and there's probably a zEnterprise 
vendor that offers it. Do we really need *more* such technical facilities(*) -- 
and do we need any more so badly that we can cancel something wonderful that 
IBM's engineers could be working on instead? I'd vote no(*) based on currently 
available information, though I try to keep an open mind. Along those lines, 
IBM has a Statement of Direction that zAAPs will no longer be available on 
future zEnterprise models, so IBM is trying to simplify things at least a bit 
since having four types of specialty z/OS engines probably isn't "enough 
better" than having three. (For those keeping score, the four types are SAPs, 
ICFs, zAAPs, and zIIPs. Four isn't necessarily the correct number -- zEDC, 
CryptoExpress, etc. also count -- but those are the four I was referring to.)
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