yes, will do that. For the moment it is at https://www.netrexx.org/files/GC28-1651-00_BatchPipeWorks_Users_Guide.pdf which I will remove as soon as it is available from bitsavers.
best regards, René. > On 10 Sep 2025, at 14:24, Seymour J Metz <[email protected]> wrote: > > Please consider sending the PDFs of the scanned OCR manuals to bitsavers. > > -- > Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz > http://mason.gmu.edu/~smetz3 > עַם יִשְׂרָאֵל חַי > נֵ֣צַח יִשְׂרָאֵ֔ל לֹ֥א יְשַׁקֵּ֖ר > > > > > ________________________________________ > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List <[email protected]> on behalf of > René Jansen <[email protected]> > Sent: Wednesday, September 10, 2025 6:07 AM > To: [email protected] <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: Pipelines = you don't understand z/OS > > > External Message: Use Caution > > > Thanks for providing that link, but I see now where some of the unclarity > comes from. I have another manual which describes TSO Pipes, GC28-1651, and I > cannot find that online anywhere so now I really need to scan that. > > In current CMS Pipelines documentation (looking at z/VM 7.1 from 2020 at > least), there is this message included for z/OS support: > > Level 1.1.9 of TSO Pipelines shipped under the name BatchPipeWorks* as part of > BatchPipes/MVS and subsequently SmartBatch/MVS, IBM Program Number 5655-A17, > but those products are no longer marketed by IBM. > > I'll try to have that SmartBatch manual available somewhere soon, for > historical purposes. I am certain that it got nowhere just because nobody > knew about it. I always considered myself lucky to have worked for a company > that shelled out tens of K's for things I found interesting, having seen it > on VM; I don't think anybody else there ever used it. I find the assumptions > in the subject header and the combative aversion to Unix very peculiar; this > way of discussing issues is a certain way to alienate every decision maker > against z/OS and mainframes; and this attitude seen here and there must also > have hurt Linux on Z deployments, which is really great stuff (Linux on Z > with ooRexx there, thanks to RexxLA). > > best regards, > > René. > > > >> On 10 Sep 2025, at 01:54, Farley, Peter >> <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> Interesting. I definitely missed the section of the manual that tells how >> to use BatchPipeWorks for other than BatchPipes-type processing. At the >> time I was involved, the POC was to see if BatchPipes processing could help >> us reduce elapsed batch processing time, so that was our focus. >> >> BTW, the manual is still freely available from IBM here: >> >> https://www.ibm.com/docs/en/SSLTBW_2.5.0/pdf/asf1a210.pdf >> >> Peter >> >> From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List <[email protected]> On Behalf Of >> Glenn Knickerbocker >> Sent: Tuesday, September 9, 2025 7:39 PM >> To: [email protected] >> Subject: Re: Pipelines = you don't understand z/OS >> >> On Tue, 9 Sep 2025 19:05:51 -0400, Phil Smith III <mailto:[email protected]> >> wrote: >>> Ya know, I remember hearing "There's an old version of Pipelines hiding in >>> that BatchPipes" back in the day. This suggests that you're both sort of >>> right (René "more righter"): it was there but not obvious, and thus is >>> perhaps not a good example of folks using/opting not to use Pipes. >> >> It's confusing to talk about because it's two separate, disparate pieces: >> >> BatchPipes is the pipeline connecting different jobs--and/or systems? I've >> never had access to play with that piece and know nothing about it. >> >> BatchPipeWorks is CMS/TSO Pipelines level 1109001A included with BatchPipes. >> >> ¬R >> -- >> >> >> This message and any attachments are intended only for the use of the >> addressee and may contain information that is privileged and confidential. >> If the reader of the message is not the intended recipient or an authorized >> representative of the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any >> dissemination of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have >> received this communication in error, please notify us immediately by e-mail >> and delete the message and any attachments from your system. >> >> >> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >> For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, >> send email to [email protected] with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, > send email to [email protected] with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, > send email to [email protected] with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN ---------------------------------------------------------------------- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [email protected] with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
