Want to talk about real bloat? Try
https://prino.neocities.org/sblog/2022-03-31-bloatware.html

Robert AH Prins
robert(a)prino(d)org
The hitchhiking grandfather <https://prino.neocities.org/index.html>
Some REXX code for use on z/OS
<https://prino.neocities.org/zOS/zOS-Tools.html>

On Fri, 22 Aug 2025, 07:22 Leonard D Woren, <[email protected]> wrote:

> Paul Edwards wrote on 8/18/2025 5:42 PM:
> >>> It is funny that some people even complain about me using
> >>> more than 16 MiB of combined OS, code and data for "my"
> >>> (gcc 3.2.3) program
>
> I am not able to maintain TAPEMAP any more, so I don't know about
> current versions, but for many many years code+data+32K_buffer fit in
> a 60KB region on MVT.
>
> > Writing and maintaining code requires actual work by a skilled engineer,
> > so there is a limit to how big it can be.
>
> What if you're using one of those bloatware languages that I
> previously dissed?  How big is the executable for "hello world" in
> various languages?  Did you know that saving an M$Word file with
> contents of only "hello world" is 24K?  (At least it was in the
> mid-90s when I tried it.)
>
>
> /Leonard
>
>
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