Depends on the size of the shop. I've been the only sysprog at a shop before, but it was a 4341 running MVS/SP at the end of the 80s.
My current employer has a small mainframe team, and I'm the lone z/OS expert (or will be once the guy who's done it for years fully retires). There are a few others, and one young guy that I'm doing my best to bring up to speed. On Wed, Jul 30, 2025 at 11:41 PM Seymour J Metz <sme...@gmu.edu> wrote: > 2 sysprogs for everything sounds like more of a sweatshop than a chuckle. > There are shops that have a full team just for CICS. > > I believe that it's fine to draft a sysprog for tasks beyond his official > role, but it's not fine for OT to be routine instead of an occasional > necessity. > > -- > Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz > http://mason.gmu.edu/~smetz3 > עַם יִשְׂרָאֵל חַי > נֵ֣צַח יִשְׂרָאֵ֔ל לֹ֥א יְשַׁקֵּ֖ר > > > > > ________________________________________ > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List <IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU> on behalf > of Doug <00000868546e89be-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> > Sent: Wednesday, July 30, 2025 9:40 PM > To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU <IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU> > Subject: Re: [EXTERNAL] Well > > > External Message: Use Caution > > > Seymour, > Too funny, just 2 sysprogs to do it all. CICS, DB2, > 24x7 oncall plus application and operations support.. > What is commensurate staff for that? > No reply needed, just reliving the past. > Thank you for the chuckles.. > Best Regards, Doug > > . > > On Jul 30, 2025, at 20:15, Seymour J Metz <sme...@gmu.edu> wrote: > > Nothing wrong with doing everything, as long as the workload is > commensurate with the staffing. > > -- > Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz > http://mason.gmu.edu/~smetz3 > עַם יִשְׂרָאֵל חַי > נֵ֣צַח יִשְׂרָאֵ֔ל לֹ֥א יְשַׁקֵּ֖ר > > > > > ________________________________________ > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List <IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU> on behalf > of Doug <00000868546e89be-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> > Sent: Wednesday, July 30, 2025 8:05 PM > To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU <IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU> > Subject: Re: [EXTERNAL] Well > > > External Message: Use Caution > > > Put me on the list, doing just CICS would be a gravy job compared to doing > all hardware, z/VM and z/OS and vendor products to boot.. > Doug > . > > On Jul 30, 2025, at 19:12, Pommier, Rex < > 00000737643a508d-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote: > > What is BCBS in your context? > > Bourbon County Brand Stout (Goose Island Beer Company)? > Blue Cross Blue Shield? > Basel Committee on Banking Supervision? > > -----Original Message----- > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List <IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU> On Behalf > Of Steve Beaver > Sent: Wednesday, July 30, 2025 5:32 PM > To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU > Subject: [EXTERNAL] Well > > Well the Dam is breaking. I got a call about a CICS Sysprog job and for > grins I said $200/Hr W2. > > Evidently one of the BCBS is now getting very desperate > > > Sent from my iPhone > > No one said I could type with one thumb > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email > to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, > send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, > send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN > > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, > send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, > send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN > > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, > send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN > -- Jay Maynard ---------------------------------------------------------------------- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
