2 sysprogs for everything sounds like more of a sweatshop than a chuckle. There are shops that have a full team just for CICS.
I believe that it's fine to draft a sysprog for tasks beyond his official role, but it's not fine for OT to be routine instead of an occasional necessity. -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz http://mason.gmu.edu/~smetz3 עַם יִשְׂרָאֵל חַי נֵ֣צַח יִשְׂרָאֵ֔ל לֹ֥א יְשַׁקֵּ֖ר ________________________________________ From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List <IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU> on behalf of Doug <00000868546e89be-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> Sent: Wednesday, July 30, 2025 9:40 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU <IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU> Subject: Re: [EXTERNAL] Well External Message: Use Caution Seymour, Too funny, just 2 sysprogs to do it all. CICS, DB2, 24x7 oncall plus application and operations support.. What is commensurate staff for that? No reply needed, just reliving the past. Thank you for the chuckles.. Best Regards, Doug . On Jul 30, 2025, at 20:15, Seymour J Metz <sme...@gmu.edu> wrote: Nothing wrong with doing everything, as long as the workload is commensurate with the staffing. -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz http://mason.gmu.edu/~smetz3 עַם יִשְׂרָאֵל חַי נֵ֣צַח יִשְׂרָאֵ֔ל לֹ֥א יְשַׁקֵּ֖ר ________________________________________ From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List <IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU> on behalf of Doug <00000868546e89be-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> Sent: Wednesday, July 30, 2025 8:05 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU <IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU> Subject: Re: [EXTERNAL] Well External Message: Use Caution Put me on the list, doing just CICS would be a gravy job compared to doing all hardware, z/VM and z/OS and vendor products to boot.. Doug . On Jul 30, 2025, at 19:12, Pommier, Rex <00000737643a508d-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote: What is BCBS in your context? Bourbon County Brand Stout (Goose Island Beer Company)? Blue Cross Blue Shield? Basel Committee on Banking Supervision? -----Original Message----- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List <IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU> On Behalf Of Steve Beaver Sent: Wednesday, July 30, 2025 5:32 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: [EXTERNAL] Well Well the Dam is breaking. I got a call about a CICS Sysprog job and for grins I said $200/Hr W2. Evidently one of the BCBS is now getting very desperate Sent from my iPhone No one said I could type with one thumb ---------------------------------------------------------------------- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN ---------------------------------------------------------------------- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN ---------------------------------------------------------------------- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN ---------------------------------------------------------------------- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN ---------------------------------------------------------------------- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN ---------------------------------------------------------------------- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN