2 sysprogs for everything sounds like more of a sweatshop than a chuckle. There 
are shops that have a full team just for CICS.

I believe that it's fine to draft a sysprog for tasks beyond his official role, 
but it's not fine for OT to be routine instead of an occasional necessity.

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Seymour,
Too funny, just 2 sysprogs to do it all. CICS, DB2,
24x7 oncall plus application and operations support..
What is commensurate staff for that?
No reply needed, just reliving the past.
Thank you for the chuckles..
Best Regards, Doug

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On Jul 30, 2025, at 20:15, Seymour J Metz <sme...@gmu.edu> wrote:

Nothing wrong with doing everything, as long as the workload is commensurate 
with the staffing.

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Put me on the list, doing just CICS would be a gravy job compared to doing all 
hardware, z/VM and z/OS and vendor products to boot..
Doug
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On Jul 30, 2025, at 19:12, Pommier, Rex 
<00000737643a508d-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote:

What is BCBS in your context?

Bourbon County Brand Stout (Goose Island Beer Company)?
Blue Cross Blue Shield?
Basel Committee on Banking Supervision?

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Well the Dam is breaking. I got a call about a CICS Sysprog job and for grins I 
said $200/Hr W2.

Evidently one of the BCBS is now getting very desperate


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