Back in the dark ages we used INFO/MVS as a help desk recording system 

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> On Jan 11, 2025, at 18:35, Phil Smith III <li...@akphs.com> wrote:
> 
> Tom Brennan wrote, in part:
>> V2 came with a screen editor and was a much more complete product in
>> other ways too. It was kind of like someone said, "V1 is good enough,
>> ship it" when it really wasn't ready for prime time. V2 probably
>> should have been the first to ship.
> 
> Software industry nowadays calls that an MVP: Minimum Viable Product. No 
> point in "finishing" it if it turns out nobody wants to use it anyway.
> 
> Of course the challenge is that V: it's gotta be good enough that it doesn't 
> fail simply because it wasn't baked enough yet to be useful/usable! I'm sure 
> we can all think of products that failed that test.
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List <IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU> On Behalf Of 
> Tom Brennan
> Sent: Saturday, January 11, 2025 3:20 PM
> To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
> Subject: Re: history and evolution of INFO/MVS, INFO/VM-VSE etc.
> 
> I don't know where it came from, it was just a reel of tape that arrived on 
> my desk one day.  That was one of my first tasks as a new sysprog in 1983.  
> What I really remember was users asking for changes to the screens, and the 
> only way to edit them in V1 was by fiddling with the hex 3270 codes, which I 
> did.  V2 came with a screen editor and was a much more complete product in 
> other ways too.  It was kind of like someone said, "V1 is good enough, ship 
> it" when it really wasn't ready for prime time.  V2 probably should have been 
> the first to ship.
> 
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