If you want to learn stuff about the system another good thing to have is 
ShowMVS (or ShowzOS as it is sometimes called).  It can show you lots of stuff 
about the zOS system.  The last place I worked at we ran it as part of the IPL 
process.  The output was put in a dataset so we have a picture of how the 
system looked after an IPL.

Paul

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Or look at the master trace table.

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External Message: Use Caution


If you have syslog access, return to the beginning of the last ipl.  You can 
learn a lot about how your system is configured.
Also, try the D IPLINFO console command.
Look at the LOADnn (usually in SYSn.IPLPARM on the IODF volume) member follow 
the IPL from there.
Read System Init and Tuning.

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> From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List <IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU> On 
> Behalf Of Mike Schwab
> Sent: Monday, November 18, 2024 12:35 PM
> To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
> Subject: Re: Listing proclibs
>
> ABCs of Systems Programming, volume 1 of 13.
> https://www.redbooks.ibm.com/abstracts/sg246981.html
>
> On Mon, Nov 18, 2024 at 12:33 PM Bob Bridges <00000587168ababf- 
> dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote:
> >
> > LOL, that's the right question, Jeremy.  But my client has started 
> > using an external company to do their sysprog stuff, and they're 
> > swamped just now; management's asked me to work through internal 
> > employees as much as possible.  That definitely makes this an 
> > opportunity for me to learn something by doing my own research, if 
> > you count asking here as "learning for myself".  As usual, though, 
> > it turns out the answer's more complicated than I'd hoped.  Oh well, 
> > sigh, suck it up and learn anyway.  I'm expanding my horizons.
> >
> > ---
> > Bob Bridges, robhbrid...@gmail.com, cell 336 382-7313
> >
> > /* Miss Manners has also observed that when children are truly 
> > allowed to express their preferences, uninfluenced by the dreary 
> > adult expectation that they must all be artistic and original little 
> > noble savages, they come out resoundingly in favor of rigid traditionalism.
> > The devotion to ritual exhibited by the average toddler in regard to 
> > his bedtime routine would make a nineteenth-century English butler 
> > look like a free spirit.  -from "Miss Manners' Guide to Rearing 
> > Perfect Children" by Judith Martin */
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List <IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU> On 
> > Behalf Of Jeremy Nicoll
> > Sent: Thursday, November 14, 2024 05:52
> >
> > The JES2 parm deck will be named whatever your sysprogs wanted it to 
> > be named, not necessarily "JES2PARM".  You'd need to find the JCL 
> > for
> > JES2 itself to find what your installation use (assuming the deck's 
> > name is hardcoded there, otherwise - as you say - find the command 
> > used to start
> > JES2 - maybe in whatever you use for ops automation?
> >
> > Why not just ask your sysprogs?  They WILL know.
> >
> > --- On Thu, 14 Nov 2024, at 00:48, Bob Bridges wrote:
> > > SYS1.PROCLIB has only a couple of Java-related jobs in it, and 
> > > SYS1.PARMLIB has no member JES2PARM.
> >
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