You can run linux as a vbox or VMware host ...

Scott ford
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'Infinite wisdom through infinite means'


On May 16, 2013, at 8:08 AM, zMan <[email protected]> wrote:

> First sentence: What?
> 
> Second: It might. That's certainly the hobbyist's argument. IBM doesn't see
> it that way, clearly.
> 
> 
> On Thu, May 16, 2013 at 1:11 AM, Scott Ford <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
>> You run just about any system in vbox or VMware we do, including various
>> variants of Linux ..
>> I understand IBM fighting hercules but ...wouldn't it also bring in more
>> business like zpdt does ?
>> 
>> 
>> Scott ford
>> www.identityforge.com
>> from my IPAD
>> 
>> 'Infinite wisdom through infinite means'
>> 
>> 
>> On May 15, 2013, at 4:51 PM, Phil Smith <[email protected]> wrote:
>> 
>>> John McKown wrote:
>>>> According to IBM, you cannot get a z/OS license for a Hercules based
>>>> machine. It has been asked for by many, for a hobbyist environment.
>>> 
>>> Right. And Platform Solutions not only proved that IBM wasn't
>> interested, but that IBM would aggressively fight attempts to exploit
>> loopholes.
>>> 
>>>> Another emulator is Boch. It is an x86 emulator. As I recall, one person
>>>> used this to run Windows, slowly, on an old pre-z machine. It would be
>>>> interesting, to me, to have somebody do this on a zEC12 running full
>> speed.
>>>> I don't know if Windows can be licensed on this configuration, or not.
>>> 
>>> That's Bochs. Adam Thornton, then of Sine Nomine Associates, did this on
>> an MP3000 in about 2001: Exchange under Windows under Bochs under Linux for
>> System z under z/VM. "Slow" doesn't begin to describe it, but Exchange did
>> (eventually!) come up.
>>> 
>>> I believe - but IANAL - that you can run Windows legally in a virtual
>> machine as long as it's a unique use of that license copy etc. So sure, why
>> not? ("Is it on an Intel or AMD CPU?" "Um, IBM zEC12, actually..." - now
>> THAT would be a fun conversation!)
>>> 
>>> ...phsiii
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