> On 3 Nov 2023, at 7:05 pm, Lionel B. Dyck <lbd...@gmail.com> wrote: > > With the z/OS Open Tools you don't need to use zopen, or any front-end, to > install any of their ports. > > For example, here is a direct link to the curl port > https://github.com/ZOSOpenTools/curlport >
Yes. But you still need the internet and access to Github. Customers that are air-gapped don’t have that acces. To me it’s as broad as it’s long. I appreciate that you like zopen but to me it’s no match for a real package manager like conda which can supports virtual environments. Easier doe not mean better. > > Lionel B. Dyck <>< > Website: https://www.lbdsoftware.com > Github: https://github.com/lbdyck > > “Worry more about your character than your reputation. Character is what you > are, reputation merely what others think you are.” - - - John Wooden > > -----Original Message----- > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List <IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU> On Behalf Of > Jousma, David > Sent: Thursday, November 2, 2023 5:30 PM > To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU > Subject: Re: Rocket miniconda frustrations > > I find having to have an entire front-end to install something that can just > be expanded with a tar or pax command way overkill. > > > > Dave Jousma > > Vice President | Director, Technology Engineering > > > Fifth Third Bank | 1830 East Paris Ave, SE | MD RSCB2H | Grand Rapids, > MI 49546 > > 616.653.8429 > ________________________________ > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List <IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU> on behalf of > David Crayford <dcrayf...@gmail.com> > Sent: Thursday, November 2, 2023 6:21:52 PM > To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU <IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU> > Subject: Re: Rocket miniconda frustrations > >> On 3 Nov 2023, at 1: 59 am, Lionel B. Dyck <lbdyck@ GMAIL. COM> wrote: >>>> You can get another port of curl from https: //urldefense. >> com/v3/__https: //zosopentools. github. >> io/meta/*/__;Iw!!MwwqYLOC6b6whF7V!k_US3TMoavpn0TTm6PL_t4rNIIj6tb_vQCrZ >> o3Woa9SZfCu8-YcuyurtSKg-wqbEMfgyiqFe5Wlf2nWnRsA$ > > >> On 3 Nov 2023, at 1:59 am, Lionel B. Dyck <lbd...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >> You can get another port of curl from >> https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://zosopentools.github.io/meta/*/__;I >> w!!MwwqYLOC6b6whF7V!k_US3TMoavpn0TTm6PL_t4rNIIj6tb_vQCrZo3Woa9SZfCu8-Y >> cuyurtSKg-wqbEMfgyiqFe5Wlf2nWnRsA$ >> and it is very simple - much easier (imho) than using miniconda. > > If he’s got problems going through a proxy couldn't the same kind of problems > occur using zopen and GitHub with Github tokens? > > I don’t find using zopen to be easier to use then conda. It’s certainly > nowhere near as powerful, for example, virtual environments. I like zopen but > I find having to source .env files a PITA and slow when configured in profile > scripts. Using conda is just like using homebrew on my Mac. Hat’s off the > z/OS Open Tools devs for getting something working well enough with only > shell scripts. > >> >> We also discuss things related to the z/OS Open Tools here >> https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://discord.com/channels/8803224716083 >> 44597/1118254421202182185__;!!MwwqYLOC6b6whF7V!k_US3TMoavpn0TTm6PL_t4rNIIj6tb_vQCrZo3Woa9SZfCu8-YcuyurtSKg-wqbEMfgyiqFe5Wlf3e-1v2I$ >> and you're welcome to join us. >> >> >> Lionel B. Dyck <>< >> Website: >> https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.lbdsoftware.com__;!!MwwqYLOC6b >> 6whF7V!k_US3TMoavpn0TTm6PL_t4rNIIj6tb_vQCrZo3Woa9SZfCu8-YcuyurtSKg-wqb >> EMfgyiqFe5WlfHGqYwrU$ >> Github: >> https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://github.com/lbdyck__;!!MwwqYLOC6b6w >> hF7V!k_US3TMoavpn0TTm6PL_t4rNIIj6tb_vQCrZo3Woa9SZfCu8-YcuyurtSKg-wqbEM >> fgyiqFe5Wlfg7_GH4U$ >> >> “Worry more about your character than your reputation. Character is what you >> are, reputation merely what others think you are.” - - - John Wooden >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List <IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU> On >> Behalf Of Jousma, David >> Sent: Thursday, November 2, 2023 12:54 PM >> To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU >> Subject: Rocket miniconda frustrations >> >> All, >> >> I have a simple need to make cURL available in my environment. I >> downloaded, and installed MiniConda from the Rocket open source webpage. >> We are behind a proxy, and am having all sorts of problems trying to >> get that to work. >> >> Does anyone know of a way to download the needed “repository” that >> miniconda uses, and do a disconnected install? >> >> Dave Jousma >> >> >> >> This e-mail transmission contains information that is confidential and may >> be privileged. It is intended only for the addressee(s) named above. If >> you receive this e-mail in error, please do not read, copy or >> disseminate it in any manner. If you are not the intended recipient, >> any disclosure, copying, distribution or use of the contents of this >> information is prohibited. Please reply to the message immediately by >> informing the sender that the message was misdirected. After replying, >> please erase it from your computer system. 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