Thanks David.

Dave Jousma

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From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List <IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU> on behalf of 
David Crayford <dcrayf...@gmail.com>
Sent: Thursday, November 2, 2023 6:38:45 PM
To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU <IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU>
Subject: Re: Rocket miniconda frustrations

> On 3 Nov 2023, at 6: 30 am, Jousma, David <000001a0403c5dc1-dmarc-request@ 
> LISTSERV. UA. EDU> wrote: > > I find having to have an entire front-end to 
> install something that can just be expanded with a tar or pax command way 
> overkill. 


> On 3 Nov 2023, at 6:30 am, Jousma, David 
> <000001a0403c5dc1-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote:
>
> I find having to have an entire front-end to install something that can just 
> be expanded with a tar or pax command way overkill.
>
>

Do you? I find installing Python packages much easier using pip then 
downloading a tarball. The first software I installed when I moved to a Mac was 
homebrew. Even Windows has winget and third part package managers like 
Chocolatey etc. I agree that for some customers the latter may be more 
convenient. But z/OS open tools has a front end too, zopen. I noticed that you 
have posted in the Rocket forum which is the right place to ask. I suggest 
waiting until CVE-2023-38545 is patched.

>
> Dave Jousma
>
> Vice President | Director, Technology Engineering
>
>
> Fifth Third Bank  |  1830 East Paris Ave, SE  |  MD RSCB2H  |  Grand Rapids, 
> MI 49546
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> 616.653.8429
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> Subject: Re: Rocket miniconda frustrations
>
>> On 3 Nov 2023, at 1: 59 am, Lionel B. Dyck <lbdyck@ GMAIL. COM> wrote: > > 
>> You can get another port of curl from https: //urldefense. com/v3/__https: 
>> //zosopentools. github. 
>> io/meta/*/__;Iw!!MwwqYLOC6b6whF7V!k_US3TMoavpn0TTm6PL_t4rNIIj6tb_vQCrZo3Woa9SZfCu8-YcuyurtSKg-wqbEMfgyiqFe5Wlf2nWnRsA$
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>> On 3 Nov 2023, at 1:59 am, Lionel B. Dyck <lbd...@gmail.com 
>> <mailto:lbd...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>
>> You can get another port of curl from 
>> https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://zosopentools.github.io/meta/*/__;Iw!!MwwqYLOC6b6whF7V!k_US3TMoavpn0TTm6PL_t4rNIIj6tb_vQCrZo3Woa9SZfCu8-YcuyurtSKg-wqbEMfgyiqFe5Wlf2nWnRsA$
>>and it is very simple - much easier (imho) than using miniconda.
>
> If he’s got problems going through a proxy couldn't the same kind of problems 
> occur using zopen and GitHub with Github tokens?
>
> I don’t find using zopen to be easier to use then conda. It’s certainly 
> nowhere near as powerful, for example, virtual environments. I like zopen but 
> I find having to source .env files a PITA and slow when configured in profile 
> scripts. Using conda is just like using homebrew on my Mac. Hat’s off the 
> z/OS Open Tools devs for getting something working well enough with only 
> shell scripts.
>
>>
>> We also discuss things related to the z/OS Open Tools here
>> https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://discord.com/channels/880322471608344597/1118254421202182185__;!!MwwqYLOC6b6whF7V!k_US3TMoavpn0TTm6PL_t4rNIIj6tb_vQCrZo3Woa9SZfCu8-YcuyurtSKg-wqbEMfgyiqFe5Wlf3e-1v2I$and
>> you're welcome to join us.
>>
>>
>> Lionel B. Dyck <><
>> Website: 
>> https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.lbdsoftware.com__;!!MwwqYLOC6b6whF7V!k_US3TMoavpn0TTm6PL_t4rNIIj6tb_vQCrZo3Woa9SZfCu8-YcuyurtSKg-wqbEMfgyiqFe5WlfHGqYwrU$
>>Github: 
>>https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://github.com/lbdyck__;!!MwwqYLOC6b6whF7V!k_US3TMoavpn0TTm6PL_t4rNIIj6tb_vQCrZo3Woa9SZfCu8-YcuyurtSKg-wqbEMfgyiqFe5Wlfg7_GH4U$
>>
>> “Worry more about your character than your reputation. Character is what you
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>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List <IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU> On Behalf Of
>> Jousma, David
>> Sent: Thursday, November 2, 2023 12:54 PM
>> To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
>> Subject: Rocket miniconda frustrations
>>
>> All,
>>
>> I have a simple need to make cURL available in my environment.   I
>> downloaded, and installed MiniConda from the Rocket open source webpage.
>> We are behind a proxy, and am having all sorts of problems trying to get
>> that to work.
>>
>> Does anyone know of a way to download the needed “repository” that miniconda
>> uses, and do a disconnected install?
>>
>> Dave Jousma
>>
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