Nonsense. Religion.

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On Monday, August 14, 2023, 10:10 PM, David Spiegel 
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Hi Bill,
It's a free country and you can believe whatever nonsense you want.

Regards,
David

On 2023-08-14 21:43, Bill Johnson wrote:
> Extrapolating Adam/Eve are fictional so too are their children.
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> On Monday, August 14, 2023, 9:42 PM, Bill Johnson 
> <00000047540adefe-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote:
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> Adam and Eve are fictional as well.
>
> Historicity. While a traditional view was that the Book of Genesis was 
> authored by Moses and has been considered historical and metaphorical, modern 
> scholars consider the Genesis creation narrative as one of various ancient 
> origin myths.
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> On Monday, August 14, 2023, 9:12 PM, David Spiegel 
> <00000468385049d1-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote:
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> Hi Bill,
> You said: "... Cain & Abel which is fictional. ..."
> Do you have proof for this assertion?
>
> Regards,
> David
>
> On 2023-08-14 20:02, Bill Johnson wrote:
>> I worked with many brilliant computer people over the years. I also worked 
>> with people like most of the usual posters here. People who got into IT 
>> because they were white and breathing. Many from the military. Ask 10 
>> posters here a question and you get 4-5 different answers and every poster 
>> thinks his answer is absolute. There are literally thousands of mainframe 
>> system programmers, yet the 20-30 here will swear because their tiny shop 
>> eliminated the mainframe, mainframes are dying. Even when faced with facts 
>> that say otherwise. Plus, the security on the platform is unmatched. Hackers 
>> would love to be able to hack the mainframe since that’s where the money is. 
>> Banks being the big one.
>>
>> I notice Bob Bridges listed these. “Did we learnanything from the Korean 
>> conflict, from the American civil war, the 100 Years' war, the Peloponnesian 
>> war, from Cain vs Abel?”
>>
>> I’m shocked Bob didn’t mention the Crusades. Where “pro life Christians” 
>> massacred hundreds of thousands and perhaps millions over 200 years. But did 
>> mention Cain & Abel which is fictional.
>>
>>
>> Retirement is wonderful. I no longer have to deal with coworkers who can 
>> barely breathe and chew gum.
>>
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>> On Monday, August 14, 2023, 7:37 PM, Wayne Bickerdike <wayn...@gmail.com> 
>> wrote:
>>
>> A bigger head beats a bigger mouth every time. Johnson by name Johnson by
>> nature.
>>
>> Yeah, I found this on the internet too:
>>
>> Noun[edit
>> <https://en.wiktionary.org/w/index.php?title=johnson&action=edit&section=4>]
>>
>> *johnson* (*plural* *johnsons
>> <https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/johnsons#English>*)
>>
>>      1. (slang <https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/Appendix:Glossary#slang>) 
>>Penis
>>      <https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/penis>. quotations ▼synonym ▲Synonyms:
>>      *see* Thesaurus:penis <https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/Thesaurus:penis>
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Aug 15, 2023 at 6:33 AM Wayne Bickerdike <wayn...@gmail.com> wrote:
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>>> Way to miss the point Bill. Do you write programs that miss out things
>>> because they can be easily found on the internet?
>>>
>>> On Tue, Aug 15, 2023 at 6:23 AM Bill Johnson <
>>> 00000047540adefe-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote:
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>>>> https://www.itprotoday.com/compute-engines/windows-nt-and-vms-rest-story
>>>>
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>>>> On Monday, August 14, 2023, 7:17 PM, Wayne Bickerdike <wayn...@gmail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Windows NT came from the VAX guys, I think.
>>>>
>>>> On Tue, Aug 15, 2023 at 6:15 AM Wayne Bickerdike <wayn...@gmail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> *The facts. According to Bill Johnson.American computer programmer
>>>> Timothy
>>>>> Paterson, a developer for Seattle Computer Products, wrote the original
>>>>> operating system for the Intel Corporation’s 8086 microprocessor in
>>>> 1980,
>>>>> initially calling it QDOS (Quick and Dirty Operating System), which was
>>>>> soon renamed 86-DOS. A year later, fledgling company Microsoft
>>>>> purchased exclusive rights to sell the system, renamed MS-DOS, to IBM
>>>> for
>>>>> their newly developed IBM-PC. IBM-compatible versions were marketed as
>>>>> PC-DOS. Version 1.0 was released in 1981; additional upgraded versions
>>>> kept
>>>>> pace with the rapidly evolving PC. Windows 95, introduced by Microsoft
>>>> in
>>>>> 1995, incorporated MS-DOS 7.0 but ultimately superseded the MS-DOS
>>>>> platform. Starting with Windows NT, Microsoft’s operating systems were
>>>>> designed independently of MS-DOS, though they were capable of running
>>>> some
>>>>> MS-DOS applications.*
>>>>>
>>>>> Facts but missing lots of pivotal events. No mention of Gary Kildall.
>>>>> Windows 2.0 was a brief look at a Windows O/S. Windows 3.0 preceded WIN
>>>> 95
>>>>> as did Windows 3.1.
>>>>>
>>>>> Really who cares?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Tue, Aug 15, 2023 at 6:09 AM Jon Perryman <jperr...@pacbell.net>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>      > On Monday, August 14, 2023 at 03:15:12 PM PDT, Grant Taylor wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 8/14/23 3:16 PM, Bob Bridges wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> My hang up is that -- as I understand it -- DOS was /never/ IBM's to
>>>>>> start with.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> DOS was /Microsoft's.
>>>>>> Again, if you want some insights, you can watch
>>>>>> https://youtu.be/Qc5khH5gllg?t=339 that seems to be the prevalent
>>>> story.
>>>>>> Is this different from the story as you understand it?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 1. MS-DOS did not exist prior to IBM / Bill Gates meeting.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 2. IBM wanted a new OS. IBM contractred Gates to create this OS which
>>>> was
>>>>>> to be called PC DOS.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 3. Because IBM was gun shy from anti-trust lawsuits, it chose to
>>>> exclude
>>>>>> ownership of PC DOS thus allowing PC-DOS to be sold as MS-DOS by
>>>> Microsoft.
>>>>>> Microsoft was not the sole owner of DOS. One piece of software was
>>>> owned
>>>>>> by IBM and Microsoft. It was IBM's choice not to retain sole ownership
>>>> of
>>>>>> DOS.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
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