David Spiegel wrote: z/VM has ALWAYS (since VM R6.0.) had the CONSOLE at 009 in the Directory entry for users by convention. You could DEF 9 3E1 to change it.
Right, but this guest has one at 3E1. I didn't set it up, nor port it from the other system; it's possible that whoever did that looked at CONSOLxx on the old system, saw the 3E1, and said "I'll put the console there". Hence the possibility that bringing it up with the console *not* at 3E1 will change the behavior. Hopefully this weekend; I can IPL to my heart's content then. Jon Perryman wrote: >"virtual console" is not a valid concept for VM CP. "CONSOLE 009 3215" >has nothing to do with a console. Eh? Sure it is. Try running CMS without one. >Have you ever tried adding both "CONSOLE 009 3215" and "CONSOLE 3E1 >3270" to the same user. I'm guessing that VM allows multiple CONSOLE >statements. If you try it, can you let us know the results because I'm >now curious about it. Can't. VM allows up to one console per guest (really exactly one, as you won't do much without it, even DSC). >"CONSOLE 03E1 3270" means create device address 03E1 and use DIAG 58 to >display data received on this address and send to 03E1 all changes to >the screen using a 3270 data stream. Not to CMS it doesn't. In fact, if I define a console as a 3270 and IPL CMS, it gets converted to a 3215. DIAG 58 is a CP thing that does full-screen writes to a 3215, sorta. >In z/OS, 3E1 could be connected to anything for example VTAM. In your >case, there is a definition in PARMLIB(CONSOL##) that tells the >console address space to use 3E1 as a z/OS console. Right, we've established that there is. Hence the desire to try with 0009. >"CONSOLE 009 3215" means create device address 009 and all data >received is forwarded to CP to be displayed by CP and commands >returned to 009. Do you consider that CMS interacting with a console >or a terminal. In z/OS, we have TSO which does the same thing but we >call it a terminal instead of console. That's CMS interacting with a console. The physical terminal is related to that, but only if there is one--for example, a VM guest running disconnected still has and uses its console. This is fun, it's like we're talking different dialects of the same language! ---------------------------------------------------------------------- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
