> Phil said: (I'm told) had the virtual console at 0009, but the CONSOLxx has > it at 03E1. "virtual console" is not a valid concept for VM CP. "CONSOLE 009 3215" has nothing to do with a console. Have you ever tried adding both "CONSOLE 009 3215" and "CONSOLE 3E1 3270" to the same user. I'm guessing that VM allows multiple CONSOLE statements. If you try it, can you let us know the results because I'm now curious about it. "CONSOLE 03E1 3270" means create device address 3E1 and use DIAG 58 to display data received on this address and send to 3E1 all changes to the screen using a 3270 data stream. In z/OS, 3E1 could be connected to anything for example VTAM. In your case, there is a definition in PARMLIB(CONSOL##) that tells the console address space to use 3E1 as a z/OS console. "CONSOLE 009 3215" means create device address 009 and all data received is forwarded to CP to be displayed by CP and commands returned to 009. Do you consider that CMS interacting with a console or a terminal. In z/OS, we have TSO which does the same thing but we call it a terminal instead of console. On Tuesday, July 25, 2023 at 09:00:19 AM PDT, Phil Smith III <li...@akphs.com> wrote: Jon Perryman wrote: >Steve says there is 1 exception to the hardware console requiring V >CN(*),ACT to become the first active console during IPL. He says if >you disable all z/OS DEV(###) consoles, then the hardware console will >automatically activate because there is no other console available. I >believe this to be true but I have never tried this. There may be a >couple caveats that can be discussed later if it solves your problem.
>This is simple to test. From the z/OS VM user, detach all devices >specified in PARMLIB(CONSOL##). At the moment, forget he mentions >"NIP" device because this is almost always included in >PARMLIB(CONSOL##) which means you would have detached it. This is so >simple it's worth a try. I will, when I can--maybe this weekend! That might be the answer, because the original directory entry (I'm told) had the virtual console at 0009, but the CONSOLxx has it at 03E1. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN ---------------------------------------------------------------------- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN