Well, the containers / stack is almost creating a virtual machine like z/VM. Not quite there, but close.
On Thu, Jun 1, 2023 at 9:27 AM kekronbekron <000002dee3fcae33-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote: > > What I don't get is OpenShift running inside zCX, which is most definitely a > product or an offering. > What I meant is that if zOS can essentially run linux inside zCX, why not > just upgrade USS to LSS, and let containers run 'bare' in LSS. > > It can save money (zIIP offload), maybe... but at what (complexity) cost. > > > - KB > > ------- Original Message ------- > On Thursday, June 1st, 2023 at 6:57 PM, David Crayford <dcrayf...@gmail.com> > wrote: > > > > Maybe your missing the point of zCX. Nobody expects to run big > > distributed stacks as that would be dumb. Distributed software is > > designed to run on commodity hardware that can fail, hence the CAP > > theorem and RAFT protocols. zCX can save customers money > > https://ibm-messaging.github.io/mqperf/MQ with zCX.pdf > > > > On 1/6/2023 7:33 pm, kekronbekron wrote: > > > > > > I think K8s is the USS of yesteryear > > > > Sad noises... I would like to see zOS native containers integrated > > > > directly to WLM instead. > > > > WLM is literally the workload manager. > > > > It may not make sense for it to do everything k8s does, but could maybe > > > > do what consul or docker swarm does? > > > > > > Me stomach turns seeing OpenShift inside zCX. > > > How many layers of faking do we need? PR/SM -> (maybe) zVM -> zOS -> zCX > > > -> container. > > > zOS security/network configuration ... zCX security/network configuration > > > ... OpenShift/k8s/containers security/network configuration ... contained > > > application's security/network configuration > > > > > > It would be fun to see zCX "unwrapped" and presented as Linux System > > > Services instead. > > > Like OMVS STC is to USS, zCX-renamed could be that to LSS. > > > > > > - KB > > > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, > > send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, > send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- Mike A Schwab, Springfield IL USA Where do Forest Rangers go to get away from it all? ---------------------------------------------------------------------- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
