I did. Mellon Bank during the transition from retail bank to investment bank. 
Retail banking sucks for profits. That’s why Citi is selling for 6 times 
earnings. ING stock would have lost you a ton of money over the last 20 years. 
Why are bank stocks selling at a huge discount to the market?


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On Thursday, April 6, 2023, 8:06 PM, Doug <d...@bkassociates.net> wrote:

Maybe you should have actually worked in retail banking, which clearly, 
you never have.


Doug Fuerst
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>Like I said, there’s little money in retail banking. And zero money to be made 
>in challenger banking. It’s why they are all shrinking or closed. Mellon bank 
>saw this 20+ years ago. ING & others are focusing more on investment banking. 
>Mostly for the high net worth people but also people in our financial arena. 
>It’s why Bank of America agreed to take on Merrill Lynch in 2008 during the 
>meltdown. And still can’t make much money because of their focus on retail 
>banking. Wells Fargo got fined a bundle for trying to rip off consumers 
>because there’s little money in retail banking. Most banks are trying to get 
>into investment banking where significant money can be made. Quasi Goldman 
>Sachs or Morgan Stanley like.
>
>You can see how precarious the economy is for retail banking companies by how 
>quickly they can become insolvent. Even a bank considered excellent because of 
>their clientele like SVB. Then Credit Suisse almost went belly up until UBS 
>saved them. Deutsche Bank isn’t exactly a bastion of profitability either. 
>Citibank almost went belly up in 2008. One of the largest banks in the world. 
>Anyone who claims banking, especially retail banking is a profit generating 
>machine is not paying attention.
>
>
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>
>On Thursday, April 6, 2023, 6:07 PM, René Jansen 
><rene.vincent.jan...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>They will be disappointed if they hear that, there are a fusion between 
>Rijkspostspaarbank, NMB (Nederlansche Middenstandsbank, Postcheque en 
>Girodienst, and Nationale Nederlanden. They are a very large bank in the 
>Netherlands. And yes they are off the mainframe, running a lot of mainframe 
>stuff on Micro Focus.
>
>best regards,
>
>René.
>
>>  On 7 Apr 2023, at 00:01, Bill Johnson 
>><00000047540adefe-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote:
>>
>>  ING isn’t a bank either.
>>
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