Maybe you should have actually worked in retail banking, which clearly, you never have.

Doug Fuerst
d...@bkassociates.net

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From: "Bill Johnson" <00000047540adefe-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu>
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Sent: 06-Apr-23 19:16:58
Subject: Re: Stop the ragging on COBOL please [was: RE: ASM call by value]

Like I said, there’s little money in retail banking. And zero money to be made in 
challenger banking. It’s why they are all shrinking or closed. Mellon bank saw this 
20+ years ago. ING & others are focusing more on investment banking. Mostly for 
the high net worth people but also people in our financial arena. It’s why Bank of 
America agreed to take on Merrill Lynch in 2008 during the meltdown. And still 
can’t make much money because of their focus on retail banking. Wells Fargo got 
fined a bundle for trying to rip off consumers because there’s little money in 
retail banking. Most banks are trying to get into investment banking where 
significant money can be made. Quasi Goldman Sachs or Morgan Stanley like.

You can see how precarious the economy is for retail banking companies by how 
quickly they can become insolvent. Even a bank considered excellent because of 
their clientele like SVB. Then Credit Suisse almost went belly up until UBS 
saved them. Deutsche Bank isn’t exactly a bastion of profitability either. 
Citibank almost went belly up in 2008. One of the largest banks in the world. 
Anyone who claims banking, especially retail banking is a profit generating 
machine is not paying attention.


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On Thursday, April 6, 2023, 6:07 PM, René Jansen 
<rene.vincent.jan...@gmail.com> wrote:

They will be disappointed if they hear that, there are a fusion between 
Rijkspostspaarbank, NMB (Nederlansche Middenstandsbank, Postcheque en 
Girodienst, and Nationale Nederlanden. They are a very large bank in the 
Netherlands. And yes they are off the mainframe, running a lot of mainframe 
stuff on Micro Focus.

best regards,

René.

 On 7 Apr 2023, at 00:01, Bill Johnson 
<00000047540adefe-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote:

 ING isn’t a bank either.


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