Well, IBM recently sued Micro Focus for allegedly trying to reverse engineer IBM’s software. Why make it easier?
Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPhone On Thursday, April 6, 2023, 11:33 AM, Farley, Peter <0000031df298a9da-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote: I've suspected for a long time that part of the continuing "closed" decision for the PL/* family of language compilers is that more recent versions may include facilities/capabilities at the millicode-level which if opened to the world would then expose "too much" of IBM's hardware IP. That is rampant speculation of course, and I would not expect IBM to admit or deny it. Peter -----Original Message----- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List <IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU> On Behalf Of Schmitt, Michael Sent: Thursday, April 6, 2023 11:09 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Fascinating Interview with Steve Jobs [non-mainframe] - now Gary Kildall On my system I can find programs compiled with: PL/S II PL/AS PL/S III PL/AS FT PL/X 370 PL/X 390 And it looks like the current version is "zPLX" 3.2.1, compiled 6/6/2021. I'm guessing this is PL/X for z/OS. -----Original Message----- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List <IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU> On Behalf Of Schmitt, Michael Sent: Thursday, April 6, 2023 8:55 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Fascinating Interview with Steve Jobs [non-mainframe] - now Gary Kildall Then what do you call the current version? For example, z/OS 2.4 LE module CEEBINT was compiled on 3/12/2019 with a compiler identification string of "PL/X-390" v2.4, which I assumed meant that it was compiled with PL/X 390. -----Original Message----- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List <IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU> On Behalf Of Charles Mills Sent: Wednesday, April 5, 2023 10:28 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Fascinating Interview with Steve Jobs [non-mainframe] - now Gary Kildall I remember IBM charging and then refunding for PartnerWorld. I passed on PLX: did not see committing to an unsupported language that might be withdrawn at any time (as it was). IBM should open source PL/X 390. Hardly would give away their secret sauce at this point! PL/X 390 -- not current PL/X whatever it is called. Charles On Wed, 5 Apr 2023 22:05:34 -0400, Phil Smith III <li...@akphs.com> wrote: >On 4/4/2023 10:09 AM, Schmitt, Michael wrote: >> The language I'd be interested in is PL/X 390. > >~1992 (don't hold me to that date), IBM announced that PartnerWorld was >now pay-to-play, $5K/year. We gritted our teeth and ponied up. One of >the benefits of the new scheme was that you could now get PL/X! So I >asked for it, got a nice minireel. > >A few months later, they changed their minds. I got to go to my VP with >a good news/bad news story, and they were the same piece of news: IBM >was refunding.most of our money. Seems POK had to pay RAL for the PL/X >license, which they couldn't get back, so they took it out of our $5K. -- This message and any attachments are intended only for the use of the addressee and may contain information that is privileged and confidential. If the reader of the message is not the intended recipient or an authorized representative of the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify us immediately by e-mail and delete the message and any attachments from your system. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN ---------------------------------------------------------------------- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN