Steve, no, no, no, no.  I'm not bashing Rexx or CLISTS or JCL.  I'm trying to 
do just the opposite.  Another poster (read:Michael) was (I'm presuming 
tongue-in-cheek) bashing CLISTs and I came to CLIST's defense by pointing out 
that it still does what it was intended to do, and it's probably not worth 
taking all the CLISTs sitting around your shop and rewriting them into Rexx or 
anything else.   :-)

Rex (with only 1 'x')

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I fine it interesting that a person by the name of Rex is bashing CLIST. Yep....

And yes, I do write JCL from scratch (answer the next post) because I right 
now, I'm working on migration code and need examples of certain constructs so I 
can make sure the migration code handles it correctly. Notice I did not say 
conversion (which I used to do DOS to MVS up to VSE-ESA to z/OS 1.2).

Oh, I haven't had to deal with it for a while, but as I recall there is a 
function that CLIST can do that REXX couldn't (well back in the 1990s). I 
wonder if that is still true.

Back to enjoying this thread.  :)

Steve Thompson


On 3/27/2023 4:17 PM, Pommier, Rex wrote:
> Using my most basic definition of a computer language - it's a list of 
> commands that can be saved to run it multiple times just by invoking the list 
> name, then both JCL and CLIST are languages (as is HTML), and both have 
> redeeming qualities.  How many of you (hypothetically) are running JCL 
> "decks" (and I used that term on purpose) that were first built on punch 
> cards with little to no change since they were first built?   JOL anybody?  I 
> would say a redeeming value of JCL is that there's nothing out there to 
> easily replace it.
>
> Same with CLISTs.  Can you rewrite the CLIST in a newer language?  Sure.  Is 
> it worth it?  Probably not.  Thus its longevity is probably a redeeming 
> quality.
>
> I'll go back to my corner now.  :-)
>
> Rex
>
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> <glaring at JCL> Maybe . . . 😊
>
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> Is it OK to rag on languages with no redeeming qualities?  <glares at 
> CLIST>
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