Using my most basic definition of a computer language - it's a list of commands 
that can be saved to run it multiple times just by invoking the list name, then 
both JCL and CLIST are languages (as is HTML), and both have redeeming 
qualities.  How many of you (hypothetically) are running JCL "decks" (and I 
used that term on purpose) that were first built on punch cards with little to 
no change since they were first built?   JOL anybody?  I would say a redeeming 
value of JCL is that there's nothing out there to easily replace it.

Same with CLISTs.  Can you rewrite the CLIST in a newer language?  Sure.  Is it 
worth it?  Probably not.  Thus its longevity is probably a redeeming quality.  

I'll go back to my corner now.  :-)

Rex

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Farley, Peter
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<glaring at JCL> Maybe . . . 😊

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Is it OK to rag on languages with no redeeming qualities?  <glares at CLIST>
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