Using my most basic definition of a computer language - it's a list of commands that can be saved to run it multiple times just by invoking the list name, then both JCL and CLIST are languages (as is HTML), and both have redeeming qualities. How many of you (hypothetically) are running JCL "decks" (and I used that term on purpose) that were first built on punch cards with little to no change since they were first built? JOL anybody? I would say a redeeming value of JCL is that there's nothing out there to easily replace it.
Same with CLISTs. Can you rewrite the CLIST in a newer language? Sure. Is it worth it? Probably not. Thus its longevity is probably a redeeming quality. I'll go back to my corner now. :-) Rex -----Original Message----- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List <IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU> On Behalf Of Farley, Peter Sent: Monday, March 27, 2023 2:44 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: [EXTERNAL] Re: Stop the ragging on COBOL please <glaring at JCL> Maybe . . . 😊 -----Original Message----- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List <IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU> On Behalf Of Schmitt, Michael Sent: Monday, March 27, 2023 3:36 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Stop the ragging on COBOL please Is it OK to rag on languages with no redeeming qualities? <glares at CLIST> -- This message and any attachments are intended only for the use of the addressee and may contain information that is privileged and confidential. If the reader of the message is not the intended recipient or an authorized representative of the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify us immediately by e-mail and delete the message and any attachments from your system. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN ---------------------------------------------------------------------- The information contained in this message is confidential, protected from disclosure and may be legally privileged. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient or an employee or agent responsible for delivering this message to the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any disclosure, distribution, copying, or any action taken or action omitted in reliance on it, is strictly prohibited and may be unlawful. If you have received this communication in error, please notify us immediately by replying to this message and destroy the material in its entirety, whether in electronic or hard copy format. Thank you. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN