Moshix signed up for an AWS instance, loaded up Hercules and Turnkey
4-, got it going, and allowed some other people to log in.

On Fri, Jun 17, 2022 at 8:31 AM Bill Johnson
<[email protected]> wrote:
>
> Cloud - Something the mainframe has been doing for decades. We called it 
> outsourcing. GM ran their entire organization out of mainframes in Charlotte, 
> Dallas, & perhaps another in the 80’s. The internet just made it easier, and 
> less secure & reliable. Brought outsourcing to a wider audience.
>
> Mainframe modernization. An oxymoron. Like saying today’s cars are like cars 
> from 50 years ago. The mainframe is more advanced than any other platforms. 
> Billions of dollars of investment and patented technologies have guaranteed 
> its place for decades to come.
>
> Sure, AWS, Azure, Oracle cloud & numerous others are creating cheap, 
> unsecured, unreliable, platforms for small businesses, picture storage, 
> emails, instant messaging, and many other tasks that aren’t show stoppers if 
> they’re hacked or down for one of many reasons. As Capital One found out and 
> lost almost 200 million for the pleasure.
>
> I enjoy the glee that many of you exude when IBM has what might be perceived 
> as negative news. I saw the same glee when in the 90’s some idiot said the 
> mainframe would be history circa 2000.
>
>
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>
>
> On Friday, June 17, 2022, 9:06 AM, zMan <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> On Fri, Jun 17, 2022 at 5:50 AM David Crayford <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > Maybe it's the case that customers don't want to use IBMs cloud. Where I
> > live in Australia the big four banks are moving significant chunks of
> > their infrastructure to public cloud and have government legislation to
> > do so. NAB in particular have been quite aggressive, although like most
> > sensible enterprises they have gone down the multi-cloud route with
> > Microsoft Azure so they don't have all their eggs in one basket.
> >
> > It will be interesting to see if IBM can close the cloud gap. Playing
> > catch-up is difficult when competing with behemoths with a decade+ head
> > start.
> >
>
> Indeed. Word from insiders is that since IBM "management" have decided
> cloud is The Answer, folks have started playing games, like attributing all
> CICS-related revenue as "cloud". Q4 2020, IBM claimed $6.2B in cloud
> revenue on total revenue of $16B. Given that nobody EVER says"cloud" and
> "IBM" in the same sentence in the real world, those numbers are quite
> difficult to believe without this kind of gameplaying.
>
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