Oh, merciful $DEITY. Yeah, LinkedIn has scam problems - but that's completely orthogonal to whether they run in the cloud or not.
Could you please stop with the equine sadonecrobestiality now? On Fri, Jun 17, 2022 at 1:21 PM Bill Johnson < [email protected]> wrote: > Here you go. Mainframe jobs you can apply for with JPM. > > https://www.linkedin.com/jobs/jpmorgan-chase-mainframe-jobs > > Be careful however because LinkedIn has some serious scam issues. Likely > because it’s on the cloud. > > https://www.nbcnews.com/news/amp-video/mmvo142340677837 > > > > > > > Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPhone > > > On Friday, June 17, 2022, 1:47 PM, David Crayford <[email protected]> > wrote: > > You may want to change banks > > > https://www.paymentsjournal.com/go-big-or-go-home-jpm-will-spend-up-to-12b-to-get-to-the-cloud/amp/ > > > On 18 Jun 2022, at 01:43, Bill Johnson < > [email protected]> wrote: > > > > What’s the difference between JPM’s mainframe and Capital One’s AWS? > Other than one is fast, reliable, and secure and the other is not. Both can > be located anywhere in the world and accessed from anywhere via all kinds > of devices. Explain the difference. What makes one a cloud and not the > other? > > > > > > Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPhone > > > > > > On Friday, June 17, 2022, 1:36 PM, zMan <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > OK...that was the commonality. Either that or you were suggesting that > > "banking transactions" implies cloud. > > > > I saw no "cloud" in anything you listed other than that one bank was > > running their stuff in AWS. Viewed through that lens, the question > doesn't > > even make sense: "Is this thing that IS in the cloud different from this > > other thing that's not in the cloud?" Well, yes. > > > >> On Fri, Jun 17, 2022 at 1:30 PM Bill Johnson < > >> [email protected]> wrote: > >> > >> I never said APP = Cloud. I can get my banking transactions anywhere in > >> the world from JPM wherever their mainframe is located. The exact same > >> thing I can do with Capital One via AWS. The APPS are just the front end > >> query mechanism. > >> > >> > >> Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPhone > >> > >> > >> On Friday, June 17, 2022, 1:22 PM, zMan <[email protected]> wrote: > >> > >> Correct. App <> cloud. > >> > >> On Fri, Jun 17, 2022 at 1:04 PM Bill Johnson < > >> [email protected]> wrote: > >> > >>> So if I get my banking transactions by Capital One APP via AWS, that’s > >>> cloud, but if I get those same banking transactions via JP Morgan APP > >> which > >>> acquires the records via CICS transaction from DB2 that’s not cloud? > >>> > >>> > >>> Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPhone > >>> > >>> > >>>> On Friday, June 17, 2022, 12:56 PM, zMan <[email protected]> > wrote: > >>> > >>> I'm highly suspicious of cloud in general, don't get me wrong. But IBM > >>> can't just call CICS "cloud" and expect it to mean anything. Calling a > >> tail > >>> a leg doesn't make it one: when the rest of the industry says "cloud" > >> these > >>> days, they don't just mean outsourcing, and definitely don't mean CICS. > >> And > >>> CICS isn't a synonym for outsourcing in any case. > >>> > >>> Actually, if you think of cloud services in terms of HTTPS > transactions, > >>> CICS isn't that far off in some ways--but it still isn't the same > thing, > >>> more an older, pre-Internet version of something similar. Yes, CICS can > >>> serve web pages; that doesn't make CICS = cloud! > >>> > >>> "Mainframe modernization" is a pretty bogus term, nicely loaded: "Hmm, > if > >>> mainframe modernization exists, mainframes must be > >>> old-fashioned/obsolete/behind". Wrong, as we know. "Mainframe > emulation" > >> is > >>> closer, only that tends to make us think zPDT, Hercules, et al.; "z/OS > >>> emulation" seems more accurate to me, but isn't the term that folks > use, > >> so > >>> it doesn't help at this point. It's a mess. > >>> > >>> But none of this discussion, interesting as it is, relates to the fact > >> that > >>> IBM claims to have a cloud presence BUT has chosen to host their > offering > >>> in AWS. Those two items are pretty hard to reconcile. > >>> > >>> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > >>> For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, > >>> send email to [email protected] with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > >>> For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, > >>> send email to [email protected] with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN > >>> > >> > >> > >> -- > >> zMan -- "I've got a mainframe and I'm not afraid to use it" > >> > >> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > >> For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, > >> send email to [email protected] with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > >> For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, > >> send email to [email protected] with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN > >> > > > > > > -- > > zMan -- "I've got a mainframe and I'm not afraid to use it" > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, > > send email to [email protected] with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN > > > > > > > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, > > send email to [email protected] with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, > send email to [email protected] with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN > > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, > send email to [email protected] with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN > -- Jay Maynard ---------------------------------------------------------------------- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [email protected] with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
