Ahhh---the fun days and dreamer days...1965 when I started(tab Opertor) after attending trade school
-----Original Message----- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List <IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU> On Behalf Of Seymour J Metz Sent: Tuesday, May 31, 2022 6:57 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Tabulating Machines (was "... z114") ** EXTERNAL EMAIL - USE CAUTION ** I remember bent pins from not alighning the board properly before closing the door. I would expect back problems if you did a lot of wiring in situ. Side note: bitsavers does have EAM equipment, under <https://nam12.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fbitsavers.org%2Fpdf%2Fibm%2FpunchedCard%2F&data=05%7C01%7CRon.Wells%40OMF.COM%7C4fa3d11a51804b0ec60708da42fca4f8%7C57c0053cb5f84a1e8bb6e8afa09f3b82%7C0%7C0%7C637895950118094236%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C&sdata=s52dnWtSnXVvSJ%2F0q3TO0fj5avlx8zfACSCUSFUnxno%3D&reserved=0> -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz https://nam12.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fmason.gmu.edu%2F~smetz3&data=05%7C01%7CRon.Wells%40OMF.COM%7C4fa3d11a51804b0ec60708da42fca4f8%7C57c0053cb5f84a1e8bb6e8afa09f3b82%7C0%7C0%7C637895950118094236%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C&sdata=MHekkj305j8b8ntdcCjdx4YC%2Fxq83CT98iw%2BtdkHcRY%3D&reserved=0 ________________________________________ From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] on behalf of Joel C. Ewing [jce.ebe...@cox.net] Sent: Monday, May 30, 2022 5:16 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Tabulating Machines (was "... z114") Just from the online pictures, the IBM 403 control board was definitely smaller (looks like maybe 66 vs. 80 columns of holes and about 33 rows) and was subdivided into 3 columns vs the 4 quadrants for the 407. The printing on the front side of the board to identify and label the holes on the board were obviously different as well. The most common failure mode (that didn't require a CE to fix) for a previously functional 407 board was improper "user" handling of the board when the board was out of the machine. If the back side of the board was hit against something hard enough to either knock one of the plugs back into the board so it wouldn't make contact, or possibly even bend the plug so the entire jumper wire needed to be replaced, then knowing which column(s) weren't printing combined with a tilt of the board out of the machine with the door open was sometimes sufficient to quickly spot the offending jumper wire and effect a quick fix without completely removing the board from the 407; but any significant rewiring of a board was always done with the board out of the machine -- easier to see what you were doing, more efficient to work near the storage bins for the jumper wires, and others could use the 407 with their board while you were preparing yours. Joel C Ewing On 5/30/22 05:33, Seymour J Metz wrote: > I've only seen a 407; did the boards for the other 40x machines have the > same form factor? > > You could open the door an wire the board without removing it; I can't > imagine wanting to do so. > > While 80-80 listing was certainly a standard board at every shop I heard of, > AFAIK the most common task for the 507 was printing reports with control > breaks and sub-totals. > > As a side note, Richard Feynman described using a room for of EAM equipment > to do calculation for the Manhattan Project. > > Have you sent that scan to bitsavers? > > > -- > Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz > https://nam12.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fmason > .gmu.edu%2F~smetz3&data=05%7C01%7CRon.Wells%40OMF.COM%7C4fa3d11a51 > 804b0ec60708da42fca4f8%7C57c0053cb5f84a1e8bb6e8afa09f3b82%7C0%7C0%7C63 > 7895950118094236%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV > 2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C&sdata=MHekkj > 305j8b8ntdcCjdx4YC%2Fxq83CT98iw%2BtdkHcRY%3D&reserved=0 > > ________________________________________ > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] on > behalf of Joel C. Ewing [jce.ebe...@cox.net] > Sent: Monday, May 30, 2022 1:13 AM > To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU > Subject: Re: Tabulating Machines (was "... z114") > > An IBM 407 control board was the largest of that on any of the plug > board machines I ever used, probably at least 24" x 24" (columns > numbered 1 -80 and rows numbered A - BL). A Google search for "407 > plug board" will find several pictures (but not all for 407s). One > picture shows that the panel pretty much took up the entire right end > of the IBM 407. Raising the door handle on the right end of the 407 > moved the control panel into the machine and brought the metal end of > each plug that was sticking out the back of the board into contact > with a flexible metal contact inside the 407, and at the same time the > panel door covered the control board completely -- definitely could > not change any wires while it was installed and active in the machine. > > The jumper wires were single conductor, color-coded for length, and > completely insulated except for the part of the plugs that went > through the non-conducting control board. It required some amount of > force to push the plugs into the board and a similar force to remove > them; but it was easily done by hand, no special tools required. An > installation would have a number of control boards, so you could have > a separate board for each "standard" application for the IBM 407, plus > some available that could be wired or modified for custom one-time > uses. You could conceivably put a metal cover over the top of a > control board to make it more difficult for someone to change a > standard board, but it was not functionally required and made it more > difficult to replace a jumper wire that got damaged, which did occasionally > happen. > > I believe all logic was implemented with mechanical relays. Although > it had the ability to add/subtract numeric values from selected > columns in a deck of cards and some very primitive logic functions > based on comparing punches in the cards, calling the IBM 407 a > computer would be a big stretch. It was mostly used for listing data > from cards with some simple summation of numeric values, possibly with > some customized repositioning of data columns to fit pre-printed forms. > > I find I still have a copy of A24-1011-1, Reference Manual, IBM 407 > Accounting machine (Sep 1960), 223 pages. Searching by the manual > number, I located a copy online at > https://nam12.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fsecur > e-web.cisco.com%2F1B6loAvZArMtLqUnJeYqhroecCU8E_hMEC2Ac_meCqG9tv6_Fn1l > Ql3U3bzO6h0SseQ39CnCyxwrOu3_DpRbGSWymcWDsQz882I7_N03vYirt-e_1xNvYd-aAX > Nrtk0pHYPFRHjvRYWLIm0wJPkQlTEOTws8L-77ql2x1dbe-wm20OxC5s-IfHyuQfTJVDep > ZMqUzpJpUV4XPvLuRgxGjxegALeWCNGXBJBZWBO7rsZ7vcJNX-Lx-XP4mEcrDRuNCZYGJN > ak1A8nwQ7UpUFZDbQBaWyyJLOh67kKSKH9y-cA11jKoMQ-X23amCwvJdYWRsLF7iEwwduM > UZ5zNN1p6keNnGW3pXoLo7mEYOwKTu4gUsh203X1QGEnDpuqSe_i8PWkBX6wRfaQbKsPbM > _xznYShGxP8PIuNKrfJeVwVGpZuWYytX3IUzwQaVuNLudiT%2Fhttp%253A%252F%252Fw > ww.piercefuller.com%252Flibrary%252Fibm-a24-1011-1.html&data=05%7C > 01%7CRon.Wells%40OMF.COM%7C4fa3d11a51804b0ec60708da42fca4f8%7C57c0053c > b5f84a1e8bb6e8afa09f3b82%7C0%7C0%7C637895950118094236%7CUnknown%7CTWFp > bGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn > 0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C&sdata=nkCBBS8O0r4wfVeNvGHVsQgTbaRvUvgUPxAvvBL > 4lKU%3D&reserved=0 > > My recollection is that most frustrating part of IBM 407 board wiring > was figuring out a clever way to do something, only to find out it > didn't work because you used a section of the control board that > required an optional feature not installed on your specific machine. > > Joel C Ewing > > On 5/29/22 13:26, Seymour J Metz wrote: >> You could theoretically add wires without removing the board. I've never >> seen it done and I suspect that it's not safe. >> >> >> -- >> Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz >> https://nam12.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fmaso >> n.gmu.edu%2F~smetz3&data=05%7C01%7CRon.Wells%40OMF.COM%7C4fa3d11a >> 51804b0ec60708da42fca4f8%7C57c0053cb5f84a1e8bb6e8afa09f3b82%7C0%7C0%7 >> C637895950118094236%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQI >> joiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C&sdata=M >> Hekkj305j8b8ntdcCjdx4YC%2Fxq83CT98iw%2BtdkHcRY%3D&reserved=0 >> >> ________________________________________ >> From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] on >> behalf of Joe Monk [joemon...@gmail.com] >> Sent: Sunday, May 29, 2022 2:13 PM >> To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU >> Subject: Re: my new z114 >> >> "I've never seen a picture of one of >> those wire boards being worked on and always assumed you did the work >> while it was in the machine. " >> >> Ummm ... not possible. To reprogram a board, you had to take a >> special IBM tool and push the wire up thru the bottom of the board! >> Kinda hard to do when the board is in the machine :) >> >> Growing up, my dad had a job as an IBM CE. One of his product lines >> was the >> 6400 accounting machine. Great fun for a kid on the weekend to play >> with a plugboard and wires! >> >> https://nam12.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fsec >> ure-web.cisco.com%2F1w_xGA-8aL86sSQIdTfI6rHypwYBdYdSUBWyUGAFzhZ55Qzw_ >> MxHsewC1TdP0AAhyF31yeFittklRBoDPKcxfaoEhkM7xgZnYwX6QIXRI-XYfMgFriAShg >> X99WQSygpyzUtkmUiOvk1ZBvyJroUtxwrfkj7VdbYYQ546D4239l8iIompcMFb8E_LNCw >> btFpzedUr75D3LJJ8LX6TdA6YrB6FkWVuzGWMIPlBkIHR4mFRbUMuvI_crJKfZc3xv45v >> g9GEc05uljX7ZoeWsaKhlorJTc_T4GQ116AVT3fAJpM3a_KYyl5RA6WoRJh7WprnYxYmz >> 19SHBtiZpKFU1IrcuWaSl-3o0DQf967SYT2_n5uVG1uhnj0TCcmdp_oAk59VmzRU5IWjL >> joqoCO5Dn7Y8V4lnzUEj7NpXD9JErRo2TMSeYCnmDFgvnQsYttZQ2RJ%2Fhttps%253A% >> 252F%252Fnam11.safelinks.protection.outlook.com%252F%253Furl%253Dhttp >> s%25253A%25252F%25252Fwww.computerhistory.org%25252Fcollections%25252 >> Fcatalog%25252F102732361%2526data%253D05%25257C01%25257Csmetz3%252540 >> gmu.edu%25257Ca2799b02cf5c4dbecd4208da41fb2e51%25257C9e857255df574c47 >> a0c00546460380cb%25257C0%25257C0%25257C637894844615983446%25257CUnkno >> wn%25257CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1h >> aWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%25253D%25257C3000%25257C%25257C%25257C%2526sdata%253D >> 41iEHD5Ho5nil8Xe4wjqvuAEtg7a84XylwtUNGkOHAs%25253D%2526reserved%253D0 >> &data=05%7C01%7CRon.Wells%40OMF.COM%7C4fa3d11a51804b0ec60708da42f >> ca4f8%7C57c0053cb5f84a1e8bb6e8afa09f3b82%7C0%7C0%7C637895950118094236 >> %7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6 >> Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C&sdata=DzqVzjWaDq%2FuoqPbw7 >> OlofCW%2FDiCl2WACBW3kPije1g%3D&reserved=0 >> >> https://nam12.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fsec >> ure-web.cisco.com%2F1Hz3kzhK5RNqUt_K3FMmaA_UY_UObnmGrn352fkk9RBSouTpg >> c4BgS-P3YQPMSufFGVn_0xELi6Maa43rQztf-DtScSMKAxgT4jwcoeYJSHe8AS2YA_K54 >> a2BbvvFCl3pFUjkK3C3sju-Ci5pm9Z7l6Rh2ppZ49bD0puIp7DH3n_RPquSbJNebnOG70 >> GJk6GC2cCurNjrcCMzzXRQGfXwaE813T3On2DVNXO_Q7JfHd10x_9cH6yV_IujRX9eF3u >> bifNXcl7HUCNNvqbZ71ULBZQyLLGpHS33gps3BL0Dn1_6A90v5XI_lZypW-pkuOov93xD >> VQCXY0Yn-flP1zywPmpwAm9lKWDlImki1NInwbL9_6kKgn7hscDFxvRcHZ3mEeyFojHmS >> o09SWgHf0bbnZdRyVEZb_Gm7nRUWC2M_MFXOUN57Zc6vnV60eY_rgPk%2Fhttps%253A% >> 252F%252Fnam11.safelinks.protection.outlook.com%252F%253Furl%253Dhttp >> s%25253A%25252F%25252Fwww.computerhistory.org%25252Fcollections%25252 >> Fcatalog%25252F102645466%2526data%253D05%25257C01%25257Csmetz3%252540 >> gmu.edu%25257Ca2799b02cf5c4dbecd4208da41fb2e51%25257C9e857255df574c47 >> a0c00546460380cb%25257C0%25257C0%25257C637894844615983446%25257CUnkno >> wn%25257CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1h >> aWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%25253D%25257C3000%25257C%25257C%25257C%2526sdata%253D >> gFC6O3dDsvvvz3xII6eBQkrJM1ko7x%25252BAgijSpMfvINE%25253D%2526reserved >> %253D0&data=05%7C01%7CRon.Wells%40OMF.COM%7C4fa3d11a51804b0ec6070 >> 8da42fca4f8%7C57c0053cb5f84a1e8bb6e8afa09f3b82%7C0%7C0%7C637895950118 >> 094236%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLC >> JBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C&sdata=x8Fbf%2FFrItdM >> PIAOoT6EtRyiNT32axr%2F%2F1xg1BYVvng%3D&reserved=0 >> >> Joe >> >> On Sun, May 29, 2022 at 12:00 PM Tom Brennan >> <t...@tombrennansoftware.com> >> wrote: >> >>> Enzo mentioned he has a couple of ESCON cards, so he's still in the >>> running. Great pic of your dad - I've never seen a picture of one >>> of those wire boards being worked on and always assumed you did the >>> work while it was in the machine. On a table looks a whole lot easier. >>> >>> On 5/29/2022 7:42 AM, Gary Eheman wrote: >>>> Harry: >>>> To try and squelch a bit of misinformation here since the Internet >>>> never >>> forgets, Funsoft was *not* spun off from IBM. It was founded >>> independently and the software and hardware engineering roots were >>> definitely not IBM. >>>> Enzo can contact me concerning a FLEXCUB. No need if his z114 has >>>> no >>> ESCON channels which would be a pre-req. >>>> A second unrelated intersection to your post relative to Columbia >>>> is a >>> pic of my father: >>> https://nam12.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fsec >>> ure-web.cisco.com%2F1gwDFZ0VlqoCEukSVnTPS9NrhjazJmj-3U1dBfEt5gk4Bwjj >>> xsNtFHIDEnYfbCzWq4Q6OKfisop3TmqYJAumPycsMTHL2v7-SzSC7MwNo-QvgScZxaXN >>> 7LYEiwN6vOmtQhyB9H-31LaxJ92ZdqRw3cCrNpzOegAplxOKzc2Ull6eTDQqz32iNU7_ >>> wmW8fALJ1dz-v8CnI1kcg3CHw1Yw7A7Ai611_X7znJqzpmV8oQZOmEPMVW7Wd2WYiCal >>> CX7PQ-UMRIN_YSR2sMAad2aT-tbOKLc49kHsN9u0B5TnGEsGtC_Dshi_ddxNHPG8JZQw >>> Bn8Jn0BI1FEOXsYnMVBXU9aIyktJZeaqAfsiweuGZyh5zSCsOSedzWUOLuKeW7Vcp7Wg >>> Gba0y7G0_BXgI5i_l5nKJMQZlv59_Dse0xZ1SADzdKzhOgauJPt1RhE2Sr-NR%2Fhttp >>> %253A%252F%252Fwww.columbia.edu%252Fcu%252Fcomputinghistory%252F407. >>> html&data=05%7C01%7CRon.Wells%40OMF.COM%7C4fa3d11a51804b0ec60708 >>> da42fca4f8%7C57c0053cb5f84a1e8bb6e8afa09f3b82%7C0%7C0%7C637895950118 >>> 094236%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiL >>> CJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C&sdata=%2BMwrtJ%2Fa >>> GI4WXGGtojY6R3n0VfbZitW9PCKZhTdMDqw%3D&reserved=0 >>>> We used the same pic when my family endowed a perpetual scholarship >>>> at >>> armyscholarshipfoundation.org >>>> On Sat, 28 May 2022 16:50:07 +0000, Harry Wahl >>>> <harry_w...@hotmail.com> >>> wrote: >>>>> Enzo, >>>>> >>>>> You may want to see if you can get a FlexCub which, with its PC >>>>> Escon >>> card, will connect your z114 to a PC based platform and emulate >>> every type of z114 peripheral you could possibly use. >>>>> Using standard Escon fiber cable, the z114 Escon connects directly >>>>> to a >>> PC Card that is a mainframe channel adapter. Between the card's >>> firmware and specific PC programs in the one PC box you will be able >>> to emulate all the peripherals you will need. >>>>> https://nam12.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fsecure-web.cisco.com%2F1VwG2tbYb1jAjg201pQkV_T2Xk4RWdRqHdSu4I5T1gmotr_54qG7oYif6WOeAFKDwfuDwo2ld5tPxHUl54b5qbjcDUnumLjKF-VB4wavk7zzYSXCUVQ9teLqJ8QsKpJjSYDS1VemU444xopkuo1o2L0vSXIDMWMzYBPkSO0ADwzsRfjl26btiGLyiTfmKdBtE9enuYYdrz2cJdiD5rQM0iEuBMgJ2atTeLlFbKOBMoUlrFBSMDGDZBrJ0cLb0seDlqaooHhB5oinuNR2XvNf7mxySklYrQAWkUvwHBpdyvIrJMNQCRPHE4GWYGTmgnmIxEkza9GU-11HlQIqRaGqty9xU7bv2asl1Q89dLdLwBt6g6JOdQti781ycKR7pTO4ezSBmSiOZgsCoDGKmCrheAZjxpahepAymhjU8ahSEadCKfPctiD14RerSHG-vFJ9f%2Fhttp%253A%252F%252Fwww.funsoft.com&data=05%7C01%7CRon.Wells%40OMF.COM%7C4fa3d11a51804b0ec60708da42fca4f8%7C57c0053cb5f84a1e8bb6e8afa09f3b82%7C0%7C0%7C637895950118094236%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C&sdata=d3x8pHJZ4KbA3%2FKVwRMV%2BMi0cbsjqpVBkxmGrUapZPA%3D&reserved=0 >>>>> go to FlexCub white paper. >>>>> >>>>> Fundamental Software, a.k.a. Funsoft, was spun off from IBM, >>> specifically from their P/390 group. >>>>> There are several other, similar vendors out there too. >>>>> >>>> (snippage) >>>> >>>>> P.S.S. Also, as a professor at Columbia University in NYC, I may >>>>> be >>> able to get you access to Columbia's museum of IBM history, >>> including the parts not open to the public. >>>>> Fundamental Software, >>>>> Inc.<https://nam12.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2 >>>>> F%2Fsecure-web.cisco.com%2F1Wy2triybBL1OvjBx384LVSLUl_pYxF5Dnime12 >>>>> fZbZaQ6grGntJz7-JXAnKHTlwgAURSTIc1DyOoxtloScfekiL2psux3CPIB7ipr2v6 >>>>> Out5CHnskvdkThwJr5GBlD-0xGpe_AHrppdvzDlN2nDC5FFE0I7IEFCaYIn09Wj6td >>>>> 0hrOH9X6E4dU9PwrSZoieQitTx3-7mElLsQYD98YPxAsHu79L5zy0Rj0Vpg2QP8TJG >>>>> AiRaRjuSjkZ7qhPcyj52bU2274yC8izy3vgaPGzSriCgDnTgHPTlIrAGlvtwHNNsNI >>>>> 22h66FtCayg0stbEBeTel6fA6W3-7FixPinGDXZ4wQXxjQUryytnw3cS-wSrqeQyb2 >>>>> EP4PoIlYV5Q3AYJ-X2d1xB_yAVfLcEp1RPnGlKP8mvw9Aqt6aT5M-ou0K0ATlVu1uh >>>>> MWntaTk_srmPz_%2Fhttp%253A%252F%252Fwww.funsoft.com%252F&data= >>>>> 05%7C01%7CRon.Wells%40OMF.COM%7C4fa3d11a51804b0ec60708da42fca4f8%7 >>>>> C57c0053cb5f84a1e8bb6e8afa09f3b82%7C0%7C0%7C637895950118094236%7CU >>>>> nknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6I >>>>> k1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C&sdata=mANmmHEeAkJtMzKriR >>>>> m5gGxAc0YcbVrNtzmWeMpao3U%3D&reserved=0> >>>>> System/390 on Intel-Based Servers >>>>> https://nam12.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fs >>>>> ecure-web.cisco.com%2F1VwG2tbYb1jAjg201pQkV_T2Xk4RWdRqHdSu4I5T1gmo >>>>> tr_54qG7oYif6WOeAFKDwfuDwo2ld5tPxHUl54b5qbjcDUnumLjKF-VB4wavk7zzYS >>>>> XCUVQ9teLqJ8QsKpJjSYDS1VemU444xopkuo1o2L0vSXIDMWMzYBPkSO0ADwzsRfjl >>>>> 26btiGLyiTfmKdBtE9enuYYdrz2cJdiD5rQM0iEuBMgJ2atTeLlFbKOBMoUlrFBSMD >>>>> GDZBrJ0cLb0seDlqaooHhB5oinuNR2XvNf7mxySklYrQAWkUvwHBpdyvIrJMNQCRPH >>>>> E4GWYGTmgnmIxEkza9GU-11HlQIqRaGqty9xU7bv2asl1Q89dLdLwBt6g6JOdQti78 >>>>> 1ycKR7pTO4ezSBmSiOZgsCoDGKmCrheAZjxpahepAymhjU8ahSEadCKfPctiD14Rer >>>>> SHG-vFJ9f%2Fhttp%253A%252F%252Fwww.funsoft.com&data=05%7C01%7C >>>>> Ron.Wells%40OMF.COM%7C4fa3d11a51804b0ec60708da42fca4f8%7C57c0053cb >>>>> 5f84a1e8bb6e8afa09f3b82%7C0%7C0%7C637895950118094236%7CUnknown%7CT >>>>> WFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJ >>>>> XVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C&sdata=d3x8pHJZ4KbA3%2FKVwRMV%2BMi0 >>>>> cbsjqpVBkxmGrUapZPA%3D&reserved=0 >>>>> >>>> ... > -- > Joel C. 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