Yikes! I thought I read that they were still using a 402 in 2010! Obviously I'm hallucinating!
How much did it cost them to keep it running? -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz http://mason.gmu.edu/~smetz3 ________________________________________ From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] on behalf of Mike Schwab [mike.a.sch...@gmail.com] Sent: Sunday, May 29, 2022 10:24 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: my new z114 Maybe Sparkler filters has their 402 manual? http://secure-web.cisco.com/1V-gDPc9RLE5kpGYt4ImxSxhrRBpYoJLRN9cZU6DG_0mvuxL1HrzPKDFeGDXP0avpm7lQlqISG8ke6ohFcALtiqHv2Rbt6wY5i9FvincRpVdfx9kkrjtb5BVKNkfLBh04XsIykbT0s4mNquX-ecNZ3RPNhTfXExlNSH4lsJIifHGtzQp-hPURWklcmV3b3U3CBYR89HhzQqU38JtHYcfwL_9Y7Legh0YU7MAf8cvPxfi57-7iQGWkhwXurqUDHda3XJJachnonUAQs24XZlCU2ufW5P2VPaBlHBz8YD8hKk2dSgfKPs87gLfAAPqQ4m-0PWqDPSXqoilSVcYgD2gcsZwqF7FnaX041MMNBl_3YFwJTaOU0UDcvCmJ4Kc3K96iT4EDDuOFcpPi9I214o_KBt6fspPC4vsIvzdSBix7os4E53kOJJWNgO0yFSNmgimG/http%3A%2F%2Fibm-1401.info%2F402.html On Sun, May 29, 2022 at 7:22 PM Seymour J Metz <sme...@gmu.edu> wrote: > > ObTeratology There were 1-digit adders that you cascaded with board wiring. > The 407 was not Turing complete, but it did have (very) limited conditional > logic. > > I was hoping that bitsavers had a copy of the 407 manual, but I couldn't find > it. > > > -- > Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz > http://mason.gmu.edu/~smetz3 > > ________________________________________ > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] on behalf of > Enzo D'Amato [edam...@octechservices.org] > Sent: Sunday, May 29, 2022 3:53 PM > To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU > Subject: Re: my new z114 > > The plug board history discussion here has been fascinating. Although I have > always been interested in vintage computers, I have never done much research > into the plug board type equipment. One of the biggest things I have always > wondered about when it comes to the plug boards was where the processors in > the system were. In the accounting machine, what did the actual addition and > printing operations? > ________________________________________ > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List <IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU> on behalf of > Gary Eheman <ehe...@funsoft.com> > Sent: Sunday, May 29, 2022 10:42 AM > To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU > Subject: Re: my new z114 > > Harry: > To try and squelch a bit of misinformation here since the Internet never > forgets, Funsoft was *not* spun off from IBM. It was founded independently > and the software and hardware engineering roots were definitely not IBM. > > Enzo can contact me concerning a FLEXCUB. No need if his z114 has no ESCON > channels which would be a pre-req. > > A second unrelated intersection to your post relative to Columbia is a pic of > my father: > http://secure-web.cisco.com/1a_g58-4gi03euSQRJeNBiStK0U_dmArcvJDFGJkQOPdyxXEe7F_yNITxYU4wKPC5hikPFdGU_2ab6l9IuQHG2tpXvOrHWGZazvdLq49WxgcPf9H8W_jWvevA4WUZP4FLC-dpDcERgPHHbza-QMOKOxa3D8Dkp030rFRQJvOnGpD-dMcvFrX-zW9bD-bsMXQvvhC2ZtjJW88uQvIV2wIU-DvHzYLwsbCOHh1O_n6iaDCodfLrNjig9p2iyS_xyOLNQ0I1MjfqB9xIyBQQc00WIEb3zg_0wb0KaqmOR3Kt8t_IxcLsAfA4GfqUHjiTO4deql_W0zunM9tpVfxxc_LI323fLsHlLN4o1vxhqQ1W3RSUXHYSKH4r8N2kA1XJteHmk3tG23YNQYNby93OWp8D5Gxc1jVdldZa3463ZSClPa2C6PaM6dgobkTcCYiLyzjg/http%3A%2F%2Fwww.columbia.edu%2Fcu%2Fcomputinghistory%2F407.html > We used the same pic when my family endowed a perpetual scholarship at > armyscholarshipfoundation.org > > On Sat, 28 May 2022 16:50:07 +0000, Harry Wahl <harry_w...@hotmail.com> wrote: > > >Enzo, > > > >You may want to see if you can get a FlexCub which, with its PC Escon card, > >will connect your z114 to a PC based platform and emulate every type of z114 > >peripheral you could possibly use. > > > >Using standard Escon fiber cable, the z114 Escon connects directly to a PC > >Card that is a mainframe channel adapter. Between the card's firmware and > >specific PC programs in the one PC box you will be able to emulate all the > >peripherals you will need. > > > >http://secure-web.cisco.com/1y7XhNgo24lI-mV32z6hxMXZ08fAhnL-lnFbRbVt1U6aL2MRqQpFuajOXG63gowsMQNvnGJKrtrsw6SGs05Yb0DvoO1jVNgMFbnccCQRqYZfrQ6I7oG1wy-zG9ZQYPbVJ2xrAdqlx_R1kiosdWbd5o2jNyr6joj3N1BpQdpzQUbPwpIYrTd5Om_zBBoVqa9_ZAruoFXEvrFxA7GJqk5e1ATmgx24OvVVXtt8mySI0uUPkLg5nhatuhB1uv5PPbPmSKgu6L350DxIlDa11YG77pG3Fw_MeCL3if5RAU3q0pZRZogsT9e_WHRdw5WchdcRP6ssYEoeRqK5rPv90zzFLyRlmUWGsGu83SaUa6PV7HXdExyLPvKy2dKLA6uJnHzg-YLdVWO_9XrNrOEdwKIE2Zer7Brnn5S_XjjAQbK2-C55M3xmuNLtXmrvirDYv7XEx/http%3A%2F%2Fwww.funsoft.com > > go to FlexCub white paper. > > > >Fundamental Software, a.k.a. Funsoft, was spun off from IBM, specifically > >from their P/390 group. > > > >There are several other, similar vendors out there too. > > > > (snippage) > > >P.S.S. Also, as a professor at Columbia University in NYC, I may be able to > >get you access to Columbia's museum of IBM history, including the parts not > >open to the public. > >Fundamental Software, > >Inc.<http://secure-web.cisco.com/1oNJQzZYGtvVX8Hq6ASEjRZUS1kIe87sr5kfBv5VJuzo1NBH78lmsQFt3HgrHP2C34Uv3-ivY92KO14qXRgM8EPrAAm-2qQqi73rasqZAw7hPqYpDnH7fLrrNfLAqvIZrfYN6RUN60S-P8oZ-vHKtW-Me5ezSy62seSQPjNqN6P9OeEPJGFK-zLGVmClirNjO8dkXpkj1jp3pwaKGVDE471npgG7018tSGnvpjALUjLxmjZzbLjQpDEt-ap27pfwUMVMbKPMOIQwS8FTBTttMZyRbCiwj9vGFxIl-A9VDPplhIf9ZFts5XY2bf_GUKCdJibIbaLQEIfNHugPigq1wuCxBtYyQIQiKflQxFd2g3eSXqGQeCcyOjnOiAV2NaGIl0Cjtodw03fgLtq5omMRGNiCITjJl_-arHYzd9ZgZ0_DFrSxg82XY6wFk2rvpDeBN/http%3A%2F%2Fwww.funsoft.com%2F> > >System/390 on Intel-Based Servers > >http://secure-web.cisco.com/1y7XhNgo24lI-mV32z6hxMXZ08fAhnL-lnFbRbVt1U6aL2MRqQpFuajOXG63gowsMQNvnGJKrtrsw6SGs05Yb0DvoO1jVNgMFbnccCQRqYZfrQ6I7oG1wy-zG9ZQYPbVJ2xrAdqlx_R1kiosdWbd5o2jNyr6joj3N1BpQdpzQUbPwpIYrTd5Om_zBBoVqa9_ZAruoFXEvrFxA7GJqk5e1ATmgx24OvVVXtt8mySI0uUPkLg5nhatuhB1uv5PPbPmSKgu6L350DxIlDa11YG77pG3Fw_MeCL3if5RAU3q0pZRZogsT9e_WHRdw5WchdcRP6ssYEoeRqK5rPv90zzFLyRlmUWGsGu83SaUa6PV7HXdExyLPvKy2dKLA6uJnHzg-YLdVWO_9XrNrOEdwKIE2Zer7Brnn5S_XjjAQbK2-C55M3xmuNLtXmrvirDYv7XEx/http%3A%2F%2Fwww.funsoft.com > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, > send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, > send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, > send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- Mike A Schwab, Springfield IL USA Where do Forest Rangers go to get away from it all? ---------------------------------------------------------------------- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN ---------------------------------------------------------------------- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN