Sounds a lot like where I work too. I’ve been working on Z and distributed for forty years and I use the same tools but probably use TSO more than just SDSF and submitting jobs. Also, use an increasing number of REST APIs for interacting with different services
Matt Hogstrom PGP key 0F143BC1 > On Jan 4, 2022, at 21:48, David Crayford <dcrayf...@gmail.com> wrote: > > It's true. The company I work for has been on-boarding millennials for years > now to replace the guys that are retiring. I work with some very smart young > guys, some of who write systems level code. None of them use REXX unless it's > used in a product they are working on. We're ripping and replacing decades > old build tools written in REXX with Python because it's become technical > debt and no one can support it. > > The typical millenial uses: > > * An IDE such as VS Code, IntelliJ, Slickedit with plugins for > mainframe languages and to access the MVS file system. > * They don't use TSO or the ISPF editor so there is no need for REXX > edit macros etc. ISPF is mainly used for SDSF and submitting jobs. > * They work in a interactive shell and use UNIX utilties. > * Everything is stored in Git repositories. > * They code scripts in Python, Node.js or a JVM language. > > > >> On 5/1/22 10:06 am, Seymour J Metz wrote: >> That's David Crayford, not me. I have no basis to either confirm or >> contradict. It's unfortunate if true. >> >> >> -- >> Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz >> http://mason.gmu.edu/~smetz3 >> >> ________________________________________ >> From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] on behalf of >> Bob Bridges [robhbrid...@gmail.com] >> Sent: Tuesday, January 4, 2022 9:03 PM >> To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU >> Subject: Re: ... Re: Top 8 Reasons for using Python instead of REXX for z/OS >> >> Shmuel, I'm interested (and perhaps a little dismayed) at your third point. >> I've gotten the impression, from reading ads about job openings, that REXX >> programmers aren't very thick on the ground even at IBM where you'd think >> it'd be pretty easy to find them. But "shrinking by the day"? Where do you >> get that? I'm not disagreeing -- I have no data -- but have you? >> >> --- >> Bob Bridges, robhbrid...@gmail.com, cell 336 382-7313 >> >> /* Genuine tragedies in the world are not conflicts between right and wrong. >> They are conflicts between two rights. -Georg Hegel */ >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List <IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU> On Behalf Of >> David Crayford >> Sent: Tuesday, January 4, 2022 19:23 >> >> 1. IBM are too busy porting contemporary languages like Python, Golang >> and Node.js >> 2. No vendor will port ooRexx because there is no market for it that is >> willing to pay support >> 3. The pool of REXX developers is shrinking by the day and no young >> people want to learn it unless they have to >> >> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >> For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, >> send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN >> >> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >> For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, >> send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, > send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN ---------------------------------------------------------------------- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
