You guys are the 2021 version of the guy who said the mainframe would be dead 
by 2000.


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On Thursday, October 21, 2021, 10:50 PM, Tom Brennan 
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Then you're lucky because my view is more like what David said.

On 10/21/2021 6:49 PM, Bill Johnson wrote:
> Plus, I’ve worked in 15 shops in my career, including banking, insurance, 
> retail, and health care. In all of them, the mainframe is the most important 
> and most used platform. And it’s not even close.
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> On Thursday, October 21, 2021, 9:13 PM, David Crayford <[email protected]> 
> wrote:
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> On 21/10/2021 7:31 am, Bill Johnson wrote:
>> I do almost everything important via app with a mainframe on the back end. 
>> Banking, health records, retail shopping, insurance claims, investing. And 
>> with very high confidence the transactions are secure, fast, & always 
>> available. Not sure how more modern the mainframe could be actually.
>> Bill J
> 
> I would suggest that almost all of those companies (banks, retail,
> insurance etc) that run mainframes run a significant portion of their IT
> systems on distributed systems. I recently met a software architect from
> a bank who told me that the explosion of internet banking app usage has
> pushed up the TCO of their mainframe to unacceptable levels. 70% of
> those transactions were reads (folks checking their bank balances on
> their phones). Their solution was use Apache Kafka to replicate the data
> to Apache Cassandra and only hit the mainframe for writes.
> 
> Apache Kafka can be deployed on z/OS but it was crippled due to the
> BPX1MMP (mmap) service being contained to 2GB. IBM have recently fixed
> that which is another good example of mainframe modernization
> https://www.ibm.com/support/pages/apar/PH32235.
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>> On Wednesday, October 20, 2021, 7:18 PM, Rich Smrcina 
>> <[email protected]> wrote:
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>> That can certainly be part of it.
>>
>> But it can also mean providing applications (typically web based) with 
>> access to z/OS data, or interfaces. Whether that’s direct access to the 
>> data, or access through a REST type interface. That way the mainframe can 
>> retain it’s role as the system of record, and at the same time put a more 
>> modern face on the applications.
>>
>> Rich Smrcina
>>
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>>> On Oct 20, 2021, at 6:08 PM, Mark Jacobs 
>>> <[email protected]> wrote:
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>>> I think it's related to the push for the z/OS Management Facility (z/OSMF) 
>>> and Zowe over traditional system administration and programming methods.
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>>> Mark Jacobs
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>>> On Wednesday, October 20th, 2021 at 6:50 PM, David Elliot 
>>> <[email protected]> wrote:
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>>>> Does anyone out there know what is meant by the expression "Mainframe
>>>>
>>>> Modernization' '? It seems to be catching on with the Bobs but when you
>>>>
>>>> ask exactly how they propose to modernize their systems all you get is
>>>>
>>>> silence. As in if you don"know we shouldn't even be talking about it.
>>>>
>>>> Any ideas ? Or is it just more BS like 'cloud' or 'devops'?
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