Still wish OMVS would slowly be DUMPED (not support for the FLAT file system) but all the other JUNK
-----Original Message----- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List <[email protected]> On Behalf Of David Frenzel Sent: Wednesday, September 29, 2021 4:56 PM To: [email protected] Subject: AW: EXTERNAL EMAIL: Re: zPDT Learner's Edition ** EXTERNAL EMAIL - USE CAUTION ** It took some days for me to put some thought into this pricing aspect. From a guy who is fascinated with the entire Z platform and all the things there to discover I am totally going to get the license. As long as IBM decides to make it available in Germany, of course. Now, if I put myself 5 years back when I didn't even know the Mainframe existed and someone would have told me to pay $120 to be allowed to install an operating system I had never heard of on my computer to work on a weird looking screen, be limited by an 80 column wide editing session and that it is very difficult to set up a connection with a graphical editor.. I am having a really hard time to believe I would have said yes to buying it. (I am being a bit ironic here.) Perhaps for everyone who is part of this group it's a different story. I am just doubting that this so called "Learner's Edition" will actually attract new people (learner?) to the platform. Maybe this is just a move to lower the numbers of not-so-legal installations of z/OS on an emulator and controlling it. As a newbie I would not be sold and probably move on with all the other technologies I can use free of charge and that are still fun. I understand that it won't just be free. For university students, however, it should be free of charge. For instance, check out the GitHub Student Developer Pack https://nam12.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Feducation.github.com%2Fpack&data=04%7C01%7CRon.Wells%40OMF.COM%7C1d27f5b04e4b498a020b08d98393f632%7C57c0053cb5f84a1e8bb6e8afa09f3b82%7C0%7C0%7C637685493799598634%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&sdata=hac%2BPJdGROzcNFX3yUMnd8ZTtfXOo6d%2Bu%2BFE6G0iPK4%3D&reserved=0. So much free stuff. Put zPDT in there and I bet some folks will dig into it and maybe some day end up in this mailing list. Cheers - David -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----- Von: IBM Mainframe Discussion List <[email protected]> Im Auftrag von Jerry Whitteridge Gesendet: Freitag, 24. September 2021 18:03 An: [email protected] Betreff: Re: EXTERNAL EMAIL: Re: zPDT Learner's Edition Agreed - $120 is something affordable by most, and I'm really excited to see this coming out Jerry Whitteridge [email protected] Manager Mainframe Systems & HP Non-Stop Albertsons Companies -----Original Message----- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Grant Taylor Sent: Friday, September 24, 2021 8:58 AM To: [email protected] Subject: EXTERNAL EMAIL: Re: zPDT Learner's Edition On 9/24/21 9:41 AM, Tom Brennan wrote: > Like Ray, for years I've been advocating something free or nearly free > with every IBM manager I happen to see. No effect so far. If this > works it could be a big change for future education. I feel like $120 / year is well within the reach of any student or hobbyist that wants to learn. It's *SIGNIFICANTLY* more approachable than the $5k entry point for other options for professionals from IBM. It seems as if the announcement on IBM's site may have been slightly premature (O(weeks)) as it has purportedly been withdrawn and someone else in the community has said that it should be available in mid October. I'm very much looking forward to seeing how this rolls out. I love the idea of having an IBM supported way to run contemporary z/OS along side my well seasoned P/390-E. :-) -- Grant. . . . unix || die ---------------------------------------------------------------------- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [email protected] with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN ________________________________ Warning: All e-mail sent to this address will be received by the corporate e-mail system, and is subject to archival and review by someone other than the recipient. This e-mail may contain proprietary information and is intended only for the use of the intended recipient(s). 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