For the avoidance of doubt, my comment was in search of a seriously useful
control block map for MVS, around the /XA or /ESA times.

It listed only control blocks, naming mapping macros and important offsets
starting from PSACVT->CVT, PSATOLD->TCB, how to find ASCB and ASXB etc.

IMI Computing did a great job on theirs. I wish I still had it.

Roops

On Mon., Apr. 26, 2021, 19:40 Herring, Bobby, <[email protected]> wrote:

> Or EOB or a CID deck.
>
> From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List <[email protected]> On Behalf
> Of Seymour J Metz
> Sent: Monday, April 26, 2021 6:18 AM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: Re: Diagram of MVS Control Blocks
>
> > I'll bet 99% of people -- even those who ran OS/360 --
> > didn't t know what Roll out / Roll in did.
>
> I hope that you weren't expecting me to take that bet. 99% of the users
> also didn't know what BAL, drums, GJP or SGJP were either.
>
> The world is divided into two kinds of people; those that never
> experienced a noodle picker or Mother Fletcher, and those that wish they
> hadn't.
>
> > How about here
>
> That a legitimate diagram. The one that the OP metioned was deliberately
> obfuscated to make it look more complicated than it actually was. It was a
> true classic.
>
>
> --
> Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz
> http://mason.gmu.edu/~smetz3<http://mason.gmu.edu/~smetz3>
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> I'll bet 99% of people -- even those who ran OS/360 -- didn't t know what
> Roll out / Roll in did.
>
> I found it included in Mitre OS/360 SYSGEN when I joined company in 1971,
> laughed, exercised it, removed it -- saving xxKB from resident nucleus,
> back when bytes were precious.
>
> It enabled JCL options, something like Rollout=yes and Rollin=yes. Specify
> former, job was eligible to be pushed entirely out of memory to disk.
> Specify latter, job was eligible to push jobs out to make room. Or maybe
> that's backwards, or maybe those aren't the precise options.
>
> Some jobs designated as bullies, others wimps. Of course nobody at Mitre
> had ever used them; for grins I coded two jobs, one each. Ran wimp job,
> then bully job. Operator got a couple mysterious messages he'd never seen
> before about wimp job being rolled out and rolled in. Then I redid SYSGEN
> minus that pointless option. It was early primitive swapping.
>
> Lizette Koehler <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>
> said:
>
> How about here
>
>
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