The MASTERJCL residing in PARMLIB can be read via browse or edit (and thus 
changed) in TSO ISPF.  The likelihood of it being changed would be rare.  Can't 
imagine any other way to see what it is beside the way you mentioned or my way. 
 Of course you can see via ISPF who changed it and when.
Scott
    On Thursday, March 4, 2021, 4:49:25 AM EST, Seymour J Metz <[email protected]> 
wrote:  
 
 Yes, it's in the Master address space. There is no guaranty that MSTJCLxx 
hasn't changed since IPL, and I know of no operator or TSO command to display 
it. The best I can come up with is to use IPCS to view the TIOT and JFCB, or to 
run the DSAB chain.


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If ACF2 doesn't start UADS usage becomes the norm for logging into TSO.  The 
MVS or Z/OS, has a definition to allocate UADS.  Trying to recall where the 
allocation for it is sine it has been a while, but I believe it is in the 
Master JCL which in z/OS it is in Parmlib.  From there it finds it in the 
Master Catalog.
In the case of ACF2 failing a valid set of JCL and a USERID should be present.
Scott
    On Wednesday, March 3, 2021, 5:04:56 PM EST, Edgington, Jerry 
<[email protected]> wrote:

 If ACF2 doesn't start, z/OS will default to the SAF interface, and WTOR for 
access.

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Itschak,  Your post piqued my interest, but it’s around 35 years since I was 
actually involved in RACF, ACF2, TSS and some other non-starters.

I can’t really help further.  Sorry!

On Wed, Mar 3, 2021 at 15:23 Itschak Mugzach < 
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> John,
>
> I read the doc. It describes ACF2 coverage for UADS functionality. But
> what happens if ACF2 refuses to start? In RACF, the UADS dataset is
> saved in RCVTUADS. I looked at ACCVT mapping macro and there is no such field.
>
> ITschak
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> >
> >
> > On Wed, Mar 3, 2021 at 13:40 Itschak Mugzach <
> > [email protected]> wrote:
> >
> > > UADS is in a bypass state. However, I still wonder what happens if
> > > ACF2 fails to start and we need to authenticate with UADS. Where
> > > is the UADS dataset name saved? I don't think we can access the
> > > MSTRJCL data area
> (I
> > > don;r think it is documented anywhere).
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> > > On Wed, Mar 3, 2021 at 8:19 PM Jeremy Nicoll <
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> > > wrote:
> > >
> > > > On Wed, 3 Mar 2021, at 17:11, ITschak Mugzach wrote:
> > > > > I looked at RCVT in an ACF2 system, but the RCVTUADS is nullified.
> > How
> > > > can
> > > > > I locate the active UADS in this case?
> > > >
> > > > What would a UADS be used for on such a system?
> > > >
> > > > Wouldn't everything user-related be under ACF2 control?
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