The terms "logical order" and visual order" should be applied to an entire line of mixed-language text Take a look at Unicode bidi processing; it can get very complicated.
-- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz http://mason.gmu.edu/~smetz3 ________________________________________ From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List <[email protected]> on behalf of Paul Gilmartin <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, November 19, 2020 2:51 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: Xmitip multi language characters problem On 2020-11-19, at 06:58:36, Seymour J Metz wrote: > > It's not desktop versus mainframe, but rather a codepage issue. Some software > on both PC and mainframes expects Hebrew in visual order. Any software > supporting Unicode should process Hebrew text in logical order. But the OP > did not say which codepage he is using. > I would expect that to someone literate in Hebrew (as I am not) both "visual order" and "logical order" would mean the same thing: o "שָׁלוֹם" comes first (on the right) and o "עֲלֵיכֶם" comes second (on the left). ISPF Edit supports UTF-8 and with an IBM-424 terminal ...? > ________________________________________ > From: Paul Gilmartin > Sent: Thursday, November 19, 2020 8:52 AM > > On 2020-11-19, at 01:39:45, Gadi Ben-Avi wrote: >> >> The answer depends on what SMTP server you are running on z/OS. >> Is it SMTP or CSSMTP. >> > Does either of these, or TXT2PDF, avoid problems resulting > because (as I understand) z/OS stores Hebrew text backwards > while desktop systems expect it forwards? > > Can they deal with CSSID 1208 files containing a mixture of > such as Hebrew: שָׁלוֹם עֲלֵיכֶם, Greek: γεια, Russian: Здравствуйте, ...? -- gil ---------------------------------------------------------------------- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [email protected] with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN ---------------------------------------------------------------------- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [email protected] with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
