Jim,

So has ESA/390 been eliminated from z/Architecture?

Joe

On Sun, Aug 2, 2020 at 11:16 PM Jim Mulder <d10j...@us.ibm.com> wrote:

>   There is no "might" about it.  As shipped by IBM, nothing lower than
> z/OS 1.12 will run  on a z14 or z15.  I don't know who you think "might"
> know more about this particular topic than I do.  I implemented the
> code in z/OS 1.12 which allows it to IPL on a z14.  I also know which
> z/OS 1.12 modules can be copied to z/OS 1.6 through z/OS 1.11 to
> allow them to IPL under VM on a z14, but that is for IBM internal use
> only in case we ever need to test some fix on an old release in
> our lab, since we moved our  lab VM systems to z14 and z15.
>
>  Jim Mulder z/OS Diagnosis, Design, Development, Test  IBM Corp.
> Poughkeepsie NY
>
> "IBM Mainframe Discussion List" <IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU> wrote on
> 08/02/2020 03:46:54 AM:
>
> > From: "Brian Westerman" <brian_wester...@syzygyinc.com>
> > To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
> > Date: 08/02/2020 11:51 PM
> > Subject: Re: z/VM guest with old z/OS
> > Sent by: "IBM Mainframe Discussion List" <IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU>
> >
> > Oops, I may be wrong, I really should read what people have written
> > completely.  The z/OS 1.8 system does work on the z13s at the DR
> > site (which is running z/VM, we have not tried it native), but you
> > are correct that it "might" not run on a z14 or z15.  It might, but
> > I have no way to test it.  I had assumed that since you can upgrade
> > a z13 to a z14 in the same frame that they would be pretty similar,
> > but maybe I'm wrong.
> >
> > Anyway the OP should have no problems running z/OS 1.10 on their new
> > z12, assuming he gets the toleration PTFs, and assuming he is up to
> > the most "current" z/OS 1.10 maintenance it likely would run without
> > them as well, just some parts might not work completely.  The
> > extensions are not overly expensive. (even from my very cheap point of
> view).
> >
> > Brian
>
>
>
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