Thanks, Peter. 

Please understand I am not criticizing or faulting z/OS Unicode Services. I
am just trying to explain to a customer the output they may expect to see
when they use our product that in turn uses Unicode Services (USS? -- LOL --
never mind).

Let's leave PCs out of it. If I were going z/OS to z/OS to z/OS, how could
both 3F and 41 make the round trip successfully?

Charles

-----Original Message-----
From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf
Of Farley, Peter x23353
Sent: Tuesday, June 12, 2012 9:04 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: Anyone a Unicode Services expert? -- roundtrip conversion

I believe that slide refers to "round trips" within the z/OS world only.
There is no statement that CCSID conversion by a system other than z/OS
(such as the PC ftp client in your example) will be covered in the 'round
trip" guarantee.

You have to be transmitting and receiving with the same or a very compatible
iconv() instance to be able to make such a guarantee.  It's remotely
possible that transmission to a linux ftp client with an iconv() that is
compatible with the z/OS iconv() *might* support such a guarantee (e.g.,
z/Linux), but I wouldn't bet on it.  And Win systems are almost guaranteed
NOT to support such a guarantee.

-----Original Message-----
From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf
Of Charles Mills
Sent: Tuesday, June 12, 2012 11:49 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: Anyone a Unicode Services expert? -- roundtrip conversion

Well, Peter, that's certainly consistent with what I see.

I'm looking, however, at slide 11 of
http://publib.boulder.ibm.com/infocenter/ieduasst/stgv1r0/index.jsp?topic=/c
om.ibm.iea.zos/zos/1.9/IntegratingNewAppOnzOS/zOSV1R9_Integrating_newAppl_LE
UnicodeServices/player.html . (You may have to unfold that URL.)

It says "R - Roundtrip conversion. Roundtrip conversions between two CCSIDs
assure that all characters making the roundtrip arrive as they were
originally." How is that going to be accomplished if both 3F and 41
translate to 1A? How will they make the round trip back to what they were?

What does technique R mean?

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