On Wed, 14 Dec 2011 15:28:18 -0500, Lizette Koehler <[email protected]> 
wrote:

>We just completed the upgrade to CA MSM 4.1.  So far not bad.  However, we no 
>longer have our SMP/E output because that was in TEMP files in MSM.  So the 
>task history is empty and any information I had from the last couple of weeks 
>of maintenance I installed to various CA Products is MIA.
>
>Apparently CA decided it was a good thing to purge all temp files.
>
>This is a heads up if you are not at MSM 4.1 yet.  You may want to offload 
>your SMP/E output to presever the maint info.
>
>I am going to see if the SMP/E Logs can provide me with some of the 
>information I need for my upgrades.
>
>Lizette
>

I've just completed my upgrade from CA MSM 3.0 to CA MSM 4.1.   I skipped 3.1 
as I
didn't think it changed enough at the time to bother.   Didn't have time to 
look at 4.x
until now, and 4.1 is current.    The one thing I really need (and am not sure 
that
4.1 can do it yet) is support of indirect cataloging for deployment.  See past 
posts in
IBM-MAIN, but basically I need to create data sets on a target sysres set 
volume 
without trying to catalog them since they are indirectly cataloged.   When I 
tested
deployment before, I wanted to update my cataloged version on the live sysres
set. 

So below is my experience with the upgrade, which was mostly painless.  CA had
a "migration to 4.1 checklist" document on their web site and that was very 
helpful and made the process quicker.   It took my about a day to upgrade.  That
would have been quicker,  but I like to document in detail everything I'm 
doing.   :-)

1)  I didn't lose any old task history nor SMP/E output, so I'm not sure what 
Lizette may
     have done differently.   I even moved the "msmtmp" file from a local 
download
     directory that we use for other things into its own "standard" location / 
zFS 
     file system per install documentation. 

2)  Even though I created all the zFS files (was the owner) and I should have 
had
     permission to them, I ran into a problem during the install scripts with a 
copy
     command:

    /bin/sh, -c, cp -F nl "//'hlq.SAMPLIB(INS04S31)'" ./SAMPLIB/MSMINS04] could 
not be executed. 

     Even though the pre-install verification utility does warn about not being 
UID 0, I still saw
     nothing in the migration checklist, the installation checklist (another 
doc) or install
     manual that said to "su" prior to executing the install script.   I ran 
into the same
     exact problem with MSM R3. 

     My advice:  "su" prior to executing the install script.  

3)  The Datacom R12 SVC load failed because I chose the same number as the R11 
SVC
     that was in use for MSM R3.    I thought, "no problem re-run the load job 
with the
     CAIRIM "REINIT" parm since MSM was the only user and MSM was not active".  
  However
     when I did this it crashed CA-11 - which is using a different Datacom SVC 
talking 
     remotely to a different Datacom MUF on a different LPAR.  (ouch!)

     I double checked everything to make sure this wasn't "operator error" and 
as far
     as I can tell, I did nothing wrong.  To fix the problem  I did a reinit 
for CA-11's 
     (and Jobtrac's) Datacom SVC and a reinit of the MSM R3 Datacom SVC and 
restarted
     CA-11.   As far as I can tell this is a bug of some sort, but I won't say 
so for sure
     until CA gets back to me.  I have an open ticket and they have all the 
doc. 
    
     As far as MSM upgrade was concerned, I just chose a different Datacom SVC 
to
     go along with the MSM upgrade from Datacom AD R11 to R12. 

     My advice:  Pick a new SVC number for Datacom if upgrading MSM from Pre-V4.


So I am now up under 4.1 level 640 (I also applied current maintenance) and 
everything
looks fine and seems to be working fine as well.  Time to read more about 
what's changed
from 3.0 and to see if I can use deployment now. 

Regards,

Mark
--
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