Ed,

0F4 is somewhat generic ... question that I had was if there was 
any analysis or comments or why the PDSE was broken. Current SMS
environment, any OEM software that was used ..... 

The comment of a directory page of a PDSE containing member data 
does not really make sense. 

Again, there have been known issues with OEM and or other environmental
issues and they must be identified to assist in resolution of this issue.

Forgive me ... I'm not quite sure what you mean by larger than PDS's... 

Again, what is your SMS configuration, what software was (or is) being used
that is or might be causing the corruption ??. 

As you well know, looking at dumps is not going to help unless there is an 
awareness of the environment.

Kind Regards

Jim Thomas
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-----Original Message-----
From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of 
Edward Jaffe
Sent: Friday, October 28, 2011 11:50 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: Please Help IBM Fix 'Broken' PDSE Problems

On 10/28/2011 4:53 AM, Jim Thomas wrote:
> Has there been any isolation to environmental factors and or specific
> OEM utilities used ??.
>
> I presume that you do have dumps of the 0F4's ??.

LOL! Of course! We've had hundreds of dumps. IBM analyzed some of them and 
discovered that they are all virtually identical--the 0F4 is issued because the 
PDSE is broken. The most recent detailed analysis showed that a directory page 
of a PDSE contained member data. IBM cannot tell from the after-the-fact 0F4 
abend how it got that way.

These PDSEs are larger than the largest allowable PDS and we do parallel 
updates 
to them (something PDS simply cannot do) so there is no way to replace this 
function with PDS.

I speculate, for a smaller PDSE, that if you can always guarantee externally 
serialized updates, as if the PDSE was a PDS (e.g., by using DISP=OLD), you 
*might* be able to avoid this problem. But, that's just a SWAG. It's not my 
code.

-- 
Edward E Jaffe
Phoenix Software International, Inc
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El Segundo, CA 90245
310-338-0400 x318
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