On Tue, 3 May 2011 09:03:12 -0500, John McKown wrote:

>Then explain them to this poor fool. I find them to be a useless
>anachronism. And your answers tend to be so short as to be unhelpful.
>
PACK, surely.  Nowadays, that function is best left to microcode
in the DASD subsystem so it can be transparent to all applications.
(Unless you consider CPU cycles cheaper than I/O bandwidth.)

>On May 3, 2011 8:03 AM, "Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)" wrote:
>
>>And, yes, I know about ISPF's "modification level" use of the
>>sequence columns.
>Suggesting that you don't understand the issues. The use of columns
>79-90 is only a minor part of why sequence numbers are useful.
>
I've long wondered, if sequence numbers are so valuable, why
haven't they spread outside the progeny of unit record systems?

o Well, there's COBOL, which allows sequence numbers at both
  left and right ends of the line.

o And BASIC, or at least used to be.  Does Microsoft VBA still
  use sequence numbers for editing?  And have a RENUMBER
  command wihch updates GOTOs accordingly?

o A colleague once described to me an [S|X]DS Sigma system which
  stored text files as a sort of KSDS (no, not the San Diego
  radio station).  The keys were the sequence numbers, and
  mandatory.  I suppose this allowed efficient insertion or
  deletion of lines.

o PDP-6 et seq. stored 5 USASCII characters in a 36-bit word.
  If the sign bit was set in the first word in a line, that
  word was treated as a sequence number (but by what translators
  or applications?)

Most of these conventions are obsolescent.

-- gil

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