*Please tell me the steps I need to take after adding new control points. I get confused by all the screens and what to do next.* In the *optimize* window first press *reset, *reset all the values and then press *Optimize Now.*
*Calculate field of view* tells you how many degrees horizontally and vertically are being displayed on the current panorama (assuming the panorama was created from a single point, just rotating the camera. Horizontal 360 means a full rotation. The horizon is still broken at the places where you cannot set control points (the ocean, waves, clouds and moving objects)... not sure what the solution is. maybe look in this forum or ask a new question. The buildings on the left side are still very jagged and crooked, you need more control points there. And in the case of mirrored surfaces, make sure that the control points are indeed at the same common feature and not on some false positive. Also, I have no idea what Sky Safari is, and what kind of projection is used in images for such application. Good luck! On Sat, Jul 27, 2024 at 3:20 PM Sam Rhoads <[email protected]> wrote: > Ok. Changed my mind, did not start over. Added several new control > points. Looked through the control points table, looking for those with > large distances. Even when I saw one that looked larger than the others, > when I click on it, the two images seem to match very well do I’m leaving > it in. > > Please tell me the steps I need to take after adding new control points. > I get confused by all the screens and what to do next. > > I clicked on the Optimizer tab and made sure that everything was selected, > and then pressed the Optimize now! Button. It seemed to do several things, > took a few minutes, showed me some numbers, and then finally asked Apply > the changes? > > I pressed Yes. Should I now press the Stitcher tab? I did. If I click > Calculate field of view, the Horizontal is 360, the Vertical is 168. I > don’t know what those numbers represent. > > For canvas size if I click on Calculate optimal size, it shows width to be > 21716 and height to be 10134. Those numbers have to be way too big. If I > change width to 4098, when I clicked in the height box, it changed to 1912, > which seems reasonable. > > I clicked Fit crop to images and get 0 for left, 4098 for right, 632 for > top, and 1782 for bottom. I don’t know if these are reasonable > > I changed the Format to PNG. Afraid to do anything else so clicked Stitch! > > Well, it looks much better. The horizon is still broken. I’m trying this > on my iPad so I’ll send this email and then go to my desktop and send the > png file. > > Sam. > > > On Jul 27, 2024, at 11:05 AM, Claudio Rocha <[email protected]> wrote: > > Most of the work you've already done successfully. There is no need to do > it again, and certainly there is no need to edit hundreds of control points > either! Just add a few that are missing in the horizon, islands and some of > the crooked buildings. > Also, when you are on the Control Points section you can evaluate which > control points are not reliable. Press F3 (or use the menu View->Control > Point Table) > You can see all the control points in the project on that list. As an > example I created a new control point that clearly does not belong there. > See how the distance information clearly deviates from the average distance > of all other control points. This tool is great to find problematic control > ponts. If you select one on the Control Point Table, the Control Point > window will show you on what images the control point is and then you can > just delete it. > <Screenshot from 2024-07-27 13-58-48.png> > > The canvas size is set manually in the stitcher tab. If you don't want a > huge image > Here's a possible workflow, Once you've set the crop area in the Panorama > Preview Window/Crop section, then go back to the main program window. In > the stitcher section press calculate optimal size, that will give you a > huge picture size. Then just set one of the dimensions (width or height) to > a number that works for you, the other dimension hugin will calculate for > you. > <Screenshot from 2024-07-27 13-48-48.png> > > > On Saturday, July 27, 2024 at 1:11:15 PM UTC-7 [email protected] wrote: > >> Ok. I think I'll start again. I don't know how to edit hundreds of >> control points. And I don't know how to set the canvas size. I surely >> don't want the width to be 21513 pixels! Can't hurt, I think, to do it all >> again. Hopefully I'll learn some more. I do not intend to re-take the >> photos. >> >> Sam. >> >> >> On Sat, Jul 27, 2024 at 4:52 AM Claudio Rocha <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>> The panoramic it's coming out nicely, you are doing great progress. >>> Do not worry about creating redundant control points. Hugin is smart >>> enough to deal with that. >>> >>> You still have a lot of misaligned images. >>> You need to go to the *control points *tab and manually create some new >>> points for features far away in the horizon, namely the shape of the >>> mountains in the distance. >>> Those new control points will help you straighten with the horizon as >>> well, Do the same for some of the buildings that now look jagged or >>> cropped. To manually create new points select two images that have common >>> features (like 0_1 and 30_1, for example). One image should be on the left >>> window and the other on the right side, like this:[image: Screenshot >>> from 2024-07-27 07-37-42.png] >>> Then proceed to create a new control point on one of the windows just by >>> clicking on the image. If all goes well, hugin should be able to find the >>> same feature on the other image! >>> If for any reason the newly created control point lands on the second >>> window lands on a different place, you need to select it and manually drag >>> it to where it should go. Use the zoom function for more precise placement. >>> (Refer to the following page for more help >>> https://hugin.sourceforge.io/tutorials/two-photos/en.shtml) >>> Create a few points for mountains, islands and far away objects. If you >>> find any control points in clouds, you should remove them, as the clouds >>> would have likely moved from photo to photo. >>> >>> To select or un-select parameters in the* optimizer*, go to the top of >>> the column list, e.g. Yaw (y), and right click on the column. A new menu >>> will pop up that allows you to select all or unselect all. >>> [image: optimise] >>> >>> If you added new control points, deleted or modified them press >>> "reset", Ok, ant then "Optimize now". Everytime you change control points >>> the whole Optimization has to be re-calculated. >>> >>> The horizon level will be straight or not depending on the chosen >>> projection and the placement on the preview screen. >>> >>> On Friday, July 26, 2024 at 5:47:27 PM UTC-7 [email protected] wrote: >>> >>>> I am making progress, but still have a lot to learn. I tried to attach >>>> the latest tif file but I didn't since the file size was 376 MB! >>>> Obviously I didn't set the canvas size and the image size correctly. >>>> Indeed, I don't really understand the difference (I'm ashamed to say). >>>> >>>> I will attach a screen shot of how it looked. Claudio suggested that I >>>> tell you all what I did so here's a recap of the steps I took -- as best I >>>> can remember: >>>> >>>> I loaded all 48 jpg images. (I thought about re-sizing them and saving >>>> the re-sized images as PNG files, but went back to the jpgs.) >>>> >>>> I then selected 330_1, 330_2, 0_1, 0_2, 30_1 and 30_2, and clicked on >>>> "create control points" >>>> >>>> That created 91 (?) new control points. >>>> >>>> Then I selected 0_1, 0_2, 30_1 and 30_2 and created control points. >>>> >>>> Notice that I did 0_1, 0_2, 30_1 and 30_2 again. I'm still not sure if >>>> this creates the same control points over again. >>>> >>>> Then I selected 30_1, 30_2, 60_1 and 60_2 and created control points. >>>> >>>> Same comment about creating the same control points over again. I hope >>>> someone can tell me. >>>> >>>> Then I selected 60_1, 60_2, 90_1 and 90_2. ditto >>>> >>>> I continued this through >>>> >>>> 330_1, 330_2, 0_1 and 0_2. >>>> >>>> Then I selected 0_2, 0_3, 30_2 and 30_3, and created control points. >>>> >>>> Then 30_2, 30_3, 60_2 and 60_3. etcetera, etcetera >>>> >>>> Then 0_3, 0_4, 30_3 and 30_4. >>>> >>>> Continuing through 330_3, 330_4, 0_3 and 0_4. >>>> >>>> I felt like I was re-creating control points, but figured it would be >>>> ok to create the same ones over again. >>>> >>>> I saved the current project. >>>> >>>> Then I found the Optimizer tab and tried to do what Claudio suggested, >>>> namely select everything and press optimize. I didn't know how to select >>>> everything and might not have done that right. >>>> >>>> I then tried to see what I had. It had a terrible horizon but by >>>> dragging it around, I was able to make it better. As you can see, I've >>>> made some progress but still need to learn more. Hopefully you all can >>>> tell me what I did wrong. >>>> >>>> This is getting too long so I'll show you the screen shot and stop for >>>> now. The next step -- where I try to stitch -- I don't do correctly anyway >>>> so that's enough for now. >>>> >>>> I can put the 376 MB tif file on google drive, but it doesn't look much >>>> different from the screen shot. >>>> >>>> Aloha, >>>> >>>> Sam. >>>> >>>> -- >>> A list of frequently asked questions is available at: >>> http://wiki.panotools.org/Hugin_FAQ >>> --- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>> Groups "hugin and other free panoramic software" group. >>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>> an email to [email protected]. >>> >> To view this discussion on the web visit >>> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/hugin-ptx/9f53d2e4-504b-460b-b4ac-c03849998315n%40googlegroups.com >>> <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/hugin-ptx/9f53d2e4-504b-460b-b4ac-c03849998315n%40googlegroups.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> >>> . >>> >> -- > A list of frequently asked questions is available at: > http://wiki.panotools.org/Hugin_FAQ > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "hugin and other free panoramic software" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to [email protected]. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/hugin-ptx/82b305d9-ff96-47ff-b98a-c7fc922d73f5n%40googlegroups.com > <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/hugin-ptx/82b305d9-ff96-47ff-b98a-c7fc922d73f5n%40googlegroups.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> > . > <Screenshot from 2024-07-27 13-58-48.png> > <Screenshot from 2024-07-27 13-48-48.png> > > -- > A list of frequently asked questions is available at: > http://wiki.panotools.org/Hugin_FAQ > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to a topic in the > Google Groups "hugin and other free panoramic software" group. > To unsubscribe from this topic, visit > https://groups.google.com/d/topic/hugin-ptx/kuOjxWQE9L0/unsubscribe. > To unsubscribe from this group and all its topics, send an email to > [email protected]. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/hugin-ptx/728FDB88-E6DE-42BE-92C9-31CF8535DD17%40gmail.com > <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/hugin-ptx/728FDB88-E6DE-42BE-92C9-31CF8535DD17%40gmail.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> > . > -- A list of frequently asked questions is available at: http://wiki.panotools.org/Hugin_FAQ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "hugin and other free panoramic software" group. 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