As a user the only thing I wonder about is if multiblend2 will be the new 
default instead of enblend. And we could try harder to explain the projection 
types to the users. And we could add a mosaic wizard. Besides that I cannot 
complain.

Kind regards,

   Gunter.

Am 7. März 2021 14:16:12 MEZ schrieb yuv <[email protected]>:
>On Sun, 2021-03-07 at 09:22 +0000, Bruno Postle wrote:
>> currently there is a single person doing code maintenance, 
>> collecting translations, _and_ doing the releases - these could 
>> easily be different roles.
>
>This!  What made Hugin great and successful in years past was the co-
>operation and co-ordination of the different teams / authors to the
>point of trusting and sharing full access to their respective code
>repositories; being able to inter-changeably assume the different roles
>for the different packages; reaching mutual agreement on repositories
>and other tools to use to simplify interchangeability of roles; co-
>ordinate releases, bug fixes, etc.
>
>That co-ordination seems to have gone missing, and re-building it will
>require sacrifices and compromises on all ends.
>
>I have just taken a half-hour stroll down memory lane.  The main
>comment I have:  Why have no admins been added to Hugin / Panotools /
>Enblend in ages?  My memory fades, but all the names I see are people
>that were either there before me, or were added on my initiative.  Who
>has taken care of the team after I moved on because life?
>
>* have any new contributors been invited?
>* if yes, why have they not accepted the invitation?
>* if no, why?
>* how many other contributors has the ecosystem missed? not just admins
>(the highest level of access/trust).
>
>Below follow a longish (and incomplete) list of signs of what is in my
>view organizational rot.  Those signs point to extra work.  I am not
>asking the exisisting and dwindling team to take on that extra work.  I
>am saying that the organizational rot is the consequences of the
>failure to welcome and embrace new contributors.  Who wants to join a
>dwindling team who does not welcome change?
>
>adding team members requires two thrusts:
>(a) individuals inspired to become team members, to bring new energy,
>new ideas, new code, and eventually change to the projects;
>(b) an existing team that is welcoming new contributors and accepts the
>change that they bring.
>
>where are those thrusts?
>
>And now for the longish list.
>
>* why are the projects still using Mercurial?  IIRC back when the
>switch to a unified VCS was made, Mercurial won because it was the one
>with most even support amongst operating system (Windows!).  Meanwhile,
>the landscape has shifted, git is the tool.  That would require some
>flexibility from all individuals, including Kay (bitbucket? exotic! I
>would not adopt it at this time).
>
>* why are the projects still on Sourceforge?  History is past, and they
>may have corrected they blunders.  But there is no going back and today
>Gitlab is the place to be (which would also replace Launchpad, that I
>introduced ages ago).
>
>* it pains me to see F*book promoted on the Hugin's website.  Really? 
>it surely explain less traffic to this mailing list, which means less
>potential contributors coming its way.  Don't expect an
>influencing/advertising tool that has an interest to isolate users into
>echo chambers to be a positive to this community.  if I was around the
>time that decision came up for discussion, I would have vehemently
>opposed it.
>
>* the Enblend/Enfuse website is still... mine!  What is the new
>generation of contributors waiting to leave their mark?  Last news from
>five years ago?  OK, the tool has matured and no need for new releases,
>but someone with a little bit of marketing flair could point out to the
>continued flow of Hugin releases, and now to Multiblend, a very
>interesting development?
>
>* the Panorama Tools website list the last new to almost eight years
>ago!  the latest release tarball is two years ago.
>
>I could probably find a bunch more, but the point is: encourage new
>contributors to take over and replace the current generation and take
>this community to its future with as little interference as possible
>from us oldies.  Else, the community will die when we inevitably do. 
>So please, please, please, make this a more welcoming place to new
>contributions.  Kay and Harrie are no newbies, so imagine how difficult
>this is for someone who has not been around for that long.  The
>alternative is to fade into irrelevance, which is why I asked the
>thought-provoking question of whether pv is already a replacement to
>Hugin.
>
>--
>Yuval Levy, JD, MBA, CFA
>Ontario-licensed lawyer
>
>
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