It may not be Valves responsibility to SM, but considering it's the biggest tool people use on servers, IMO, it should be worked with them to make sure it doesn't get broken with every other update.
On Wed, Dec 10, 2014 at 10:09 AM, Albert Davis <[email protected]> wrote: > Updates may keep some games alive, but I know many people who have quit > playing TF2 BECAUSE of the updates, they flat out refuse. > > On Wed, Dec 10, 2014 at 9:42 AM, Spencer 'Voogru' MacDonald < > [email protected]> wrote: > >> “The constant updates breaking shit like SM” >> >> Not valves responsibility. >> >> >> >> *From:* [email protected] [mailto: >> [email protected]] *On Behalf Of *Albert Davis >> *Sent:* Wednesday, December 10, 2014 9:21 AM >> *To:* Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list >> *Subject:* Re: [hlds] Optional TF2 dedicated server update released >> >> >> >> It is server related since I run one, and I have played tf2 since the >> beginning. The constant updates breaking shit like SM and the like, it's >> getting rather tiresome. >> >> >> >> On Wed, Dec 10, 2014 at 8:59 AM, Anthony Duncan < >> [email protected]> wrote: >> >> You could always 'not' play the game. Also not server related so you >> should probably use the community forums to vent instead. >> >> >> >> On Wed, Dec 10, 2014 at 1:52 PM, Albert Davis <[email protected]> >> wrote: >> >> Can't you guys just STOP with all these updates? It's getting ridiculous. >> You are ruining the game. What's even worse, is that shit tons of people >> paid for this game originally, you then make itf F2P, and just keep killing >> it more week by week with these silly updates. Fix broken stuff, sure, but >> adding all these additional stuff, it's just....ugh >> >> >> >> >> >> On Tue, Dec 9, 2014 at 8:21 PM, 1nsane <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> And when quickplay doesn't find any valve servers it just tells players >> to try again later. Nothing about using the server browser or community >> quickplay. >> >> >> >> Seems they would rather have new players not play at all than play on >> community servers. >> >> >> >> Would be nice if they edited that message. Eh valve? Please? Pretty >> please? :D >> >> >> >> On Tue, Dec 9, 2014 at 6:13 PM, wickedplayer494 < >> [email protected]> wrote: >> >> If Valve wanted to do that, they'd just outright say "yeah hey we're done >> with this game, see ya" and/or shut off all their servers leaving only >> community ones running. >> >> >> >> On 12/9/2014 5:09 PM, Paul wrote: >> >> A wild theory, but erhaps Valve are intentionally wanting players to >> slowly lose interest in Team Fortress 2 for some reason? >> >> >> >> On 9 December 2014 at 23:01, Robert Paulson <[email protected]> >> wrote: >> >> I would argue that it is related to third party dedicated servers. >> >> >> >> The people left in charge of TF2 have been out of touch with players for >> a while and only now is it becoming more obvious. We face the brunt of >> these bad policies because we don't have a stream of new mann co store >> fodder from quickplay. A few years ago the thought of making a major patch >> locked behind an uncraftable purchase would not even have crossed their >> minds. >> >> >> >> Despite 3 major non-MvM patches, global player counts are again on their >> way to declining back to beginning of the year levels. With the amount of >> developer time spent on the game, TF2 should not be 1/5th the size of CS. >> I've seen many quality servers die out this year. Custom servers are also >> dying because new players aren't being exposed enough to the fact that >> custom servers exist. >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, >> please visit: >> https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds >> >> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> >> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, >> please visit: >> >> https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, >> please visit: >> https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds >> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, >> please visit: >> https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds >> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, >> please visit: >> https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds >> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, >> please visit: >> https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, >> please visit: >> https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds >> >> >
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