Slack does require more memory than other solutions, running on 200 MB here for 3 Organizations, but it is a really nice tool.
So my preference is Slack. Mit freundlichen Grüßen, ------------------------------------------------------------------------ *Christian Beikov* Am 27.07.2018 um 09:19 schrieb Yoann Rodiere: > So, I guess this closes the "Stride" case: we won't use it. > > I quite like Zulip, but I must admit it doesn't do much to make life easy > for new users. This choice of theirs to make topics mandatory (or at least > *seemingly* mandatory), in particular, is very likely to confuse new users, > be it Hibernate Users joining to look for help, or even people in our team. > So even though I like it, I think a lot of people won't, so they won't use > it much, which kind of defeats the purpose of a communication tool. > > Slack would do the trick, I guess, and since most of our rooms are public > we don't care that they probably use the data for their own profit (with > such a trove of data, I would be surprised if they didn't). > > There are alternative solutions, though. Of course there are the clones of > Slack such Rocket Chat and Mattermost. I just created a RocketChat > instance: https://hibernate.rocket.chat/channel/general > > There is also gitter, which apparently some people in our team have been > starting to use: https://gitter.im/hibernate/hibernate-orm . No JIRA > integration there, though. > > I think in the end it will all come down to what people in our team are > most comfortable with. Whatever the technology and its future, what we need > most is everyone to be happy with it. We can deal with yet another switch > in the future, but in the meantime we need everyone to use whatever we > picked. And in this regard, it would help if people made their preferences > known... Anyone? > > Yoann Rodière > Hibernate NoORM Team > yo...@hibernate.org > > > > On Fri, 27 Jul 2018 at 08:43, Sanne Grinovero <sa...@hibernate.org> wrote: > >> +1 to test Zulip, thanks for setting it up Yoann. >> >> Personally having used it quite a bit with other projects: it has >> potential but it's not particularly polished yet; in particular the >> mobile client has severe issues, and people are quite often failing to >> use the "topics" correctly. >> >> In the news today, Atlassian is killing both HipChat and Stride; >> Started a partnership to move to Slack: >> - >> https://www.atlassian.com/blog/announcements/new-atlassian-slack-partnership >> >> I've been forced to use Slack as well for yet another group. Sadly not >> OSS and infamous for needing tons of memory, but it's working very >> well and has some very thouroughly well designed features. >> >> So this raises more question.. >> >> - will Zulip catch up? >> >> - Do we prefer a half baked solution just because it's open? >> >> - Is the humoungous memory requirement of Slack a real problem? >> >> Tempted to just get back to IRC :/ >> >> The Atlassian&Slack partnership however is likely just a small step >> towards more interesting integrations across the products. >> On Tue, 24 Jul 2018 at 21:56, Yoann Rodiere <yo...@hibernate.org> wrote: >>> I encountered yet another problem with HipChat [1], so I created a >>> Hibernate organization in Zulip. Turns out GitHub and Google >> authentication >>> are available even in the free plan. >>> >>> Anyone cares to join me to test it? It's here: >>> https://hibernate.zulipchat.com/# >>> >>> [1] >>> >> https://bitbucket.org/hipchat/hipchat-github-addon/issues/4/cant-add-organization-repo?_ga=2.132026959.1338067251.1532438591-706928748.1527601569 >>> Yoann Rodière >>> Hibernate NoORM Team >>> yo...@hibernate.org >>> >>> >>> On Tue, 22 May 2018 at 10:50, Guillaume Smet <guillaume.s...@gmail.com> >>> wrote: >>> >>>> On Tue, May 22, 2018 at 10:26 AM, Yoann Rodiere <yo...@hibernate.org> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>>> ... But I think the one criteria that will make us pick Stride is free >>>>> hosting. Most other platforms either do not have a free plan, or do >> not >>>>> provide all of their features to free plan users. Zulip apparently >> removes >>>>> OAuth authentication in its free plan, for instance. The Infinispan >> team >>>>> has OAuth authentication enabled though... Do they pay for their Zulip >>>>> instance? >>>>> >>>> Quote: "Zulip Cloud Premium is free for open source projects and a wide >>>> variety of non-commercial entities" >>>> >>>> What bugged me first was the capped archives of the free offer. >>>> >>>> HipChat is doing a very similar thing. >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Guillaume >>>> >>>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> hibernate-dev mailing list >>> hibernate-dev@lists.jboss.org >>> https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/hibernate-dev >> _______________________________________________ >> hibernate-dev mailing list >> hibernate-dev@lists.jboss.org >> https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/hibernate-dev > _______________________________________________ > hibernate-dev mailing list > hibernate-dev@lists.jboss.org > https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/hibernate-dev _______________________________________________ hibernate-dev mailing list hibernate-dev@lists.jboss.org https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/hibernate-dev
