Wise words! michoski wrote: > On 9/22/10 12:16 PM, "Les Mikesell" <lesmikes...@gmail.com> wrote: >> Well, no. I don't consider reading and sometimes responding to things >> on a mail list as being fed. Or that I have anything to lose from >> having an opinion that differs from yours. So far I don't think >> cfengine does what I need but it is interesting enough to watch. > > Fair enough, but I'd like to expand this based upon my own personal > experience... > > Based upon my trials and tribulations (over the past 10 years), no tool does > what I need it to out of the box. This is the same for bcfg, blade logic, > cfengine, isconf, puppet, etc (alpha order). Each consists of a steep > learning curve, followed by waves of understanding (including understanding > the shortcomings that must be worked around), and then a somewhat > site-specific mastery that typically involves process and tool development > outside the configuration management platform itself. > > Configuration management really is a discipline unto itself, which requires > a lot of time and planning to do right. I feel this is an obvious shift the > industry has slowly acknowledged, but still needs work to fully understand. > For example, being asked to "just make configuration management happen" as > an extra hat to wear without any insight into the development lifecycle or > guiding principles usually won't have desirable effects. > > Any tool one selects will take some time to understand and extend. I'm glad > to hear Nova is attempting to offer a boxed solution to many of the hurdles > IT management faces with configuration management, but realistically expect > to do a fair amount of work integrating any new tool with our environments. > I've experienced the same amount of "integration" work in commercial > solutions charging thousands just to license the endpoints. >
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