On Thu, May 30, 2013 at 05:30PM, Chris Douglas wrote:
> On Thu, May 30, 2013 at 3:25 PM, Konstantin Boudnik <c...@apache.org> wrote:
> > There's no plans to release anything else at this point - this is a bug-fix
> > release, as I pointed out on a numerous occasions. There's no new features -
> > just 2 fixes.
> 
> If you're worried about extending the voting by a week, I don't think
> anyone can reasonably object to a truncated schedule if the only
> change is the version number. Downstream fixes discovered in Bigtop
> are a sufficient reason for a patch release and I think we'd all like
> them to become routine. Not just in 2.0.x, but in later release
> branches.

I have no issues of changing the version to 2.0.5-alpha and restarting to vote
for the release content, e.g. 2 bug fixes. Shall I call 3 days re-vote because
of the number change?

> > 2.0.5 matter became and still is too controversial at some point. The vote
> > started by Arun to override the results of the Konstantin's vote never been
> > closed.
> 
> For the nth time, neither release plan vote was binding. We recently
> amended the bylaws to eliminate this confusion. There is no ambiguity
> between votes when neither is in scope.

Does the result of bylaw vote nullifies the unfinished vote started by Arun?
Sorry, I am dense, apparently.

> > The downstream projects are handing in the middle of the air because
> > of that confusion.
> 
> Can we please ground our discussion when discussing compatibility and
> bugs? Breathless alarm is not proportional to the severity, here.

Good point. Can we limit the vote thread to the merits of the release then?

> > Have I missed something or you just called me a cheater and a lair right to 
> > my face?
> 
> I called you neither. The prenominate votes were closed, counted, and
> declared to be binding over objections. I'm annoyed that I have to
> toggle my vote to prevent that tactic, but based on recent experience
> I don't expect you to forgo it. I'd be happy to learn my caution is
> unnecessary. -C

That sound like adding an insult to injury, if my forth-language skills do not
mislead me.

Cos

> >> > On Thu, May 30, 2013 at 01:48PM, Chris Douglas wrote:
> >> >> On Thu, May 30, 2013 at 10:57 AM, Arun C Murthy <a...@hortonworks.com> 
> >> >> wrote:
> >> >> > Why not include MAPREDUCE-4211 as well rather than create one release 
> >> >> > per patch?
> >> >>
> >> >> From Cos's description, it sounded like these were backports of fixes
> >> >> to help Sqoop2 and fix some build issues. If it's not just to fixup
> >> >> leftover bugs in 2.0.4 *once* so downstream projects can integrate
> >> >> against 2.0.4.1, and this a release series, then I've completely
> >> >> misunderstood the purpose.
> >> >>
> >> >> Cos, are you planning 2.0.4.2?
> >> >>
> >> >> > Also, this is the first time we are seeing a four-numbered scheme in 
> >> >> > Hadoop. Why not call this 2.0.5-alpha?
> >> >>
> >> >> Good point. Since it contains only backports from branch-2, it would
> >> >> make sense for it to be an intermediate release.
> >> >>
> >> >> I shouldn't have to say this, but I'm changing my vote to -1 while we
> >> >> work this out. -C
> >> >>
> >> >> > On May 24, 2013, at 8:48 PM, Konstantin Boudnik wrote:
> >> >> >
> >> >> >> All,
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> I have created a release candidate (rc0) for hadoop-2.0.4.1-alpha 
> >> >> >> that I would
> >> >> >> like to release.
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> This is a stabilization release that includes fixed for a couple a 
> >> >> >> of issues
> >> >> >> discovered in the testing with BigTop 0.6.0 release candidate.
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> The RC is available at: 
> >> >> >> http://people.apache.org/~cos/hadoop-2.0.4.1-alpha-rc0/
> >> >> >> The RC tag in svn is here: 
> >> >> >> http://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/hadoop/common/tags/release-2.0.4.1-alpha-rc0
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> The maven artifacts are available via repository.apache.org.
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> Please try the release bits and vote; the vote will run for the 
> >> >> >> usual 7 days.
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> Thanks for your voting
> >> >> >>  Cos
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >
> >> >> >

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