On Thu, May 30, 2013 at 2:39 PM, Konstantin Boudnik <c...@apache.org> wrote:
> There's no misunderstanding Chris - this release is to unblock downstream.
>
> As for your question: I don't have a crystal ball; I wish though. I think the
> answer depends on will be there more blocking bugs found in the later releases
> of Bigtop or other downstream components.
> This is bugfix release and, I guess, if there are more bugs found in the
> future - more releases would have to be cut. Isn't this is why the software is
> being released?

Sure, but they're all backports from the release currently marked for
2.0.5. Either (a) these are really blocker bugs and we should roll a
patch release or (b) some bleeding-edge work needs to work around this
while branch-2 is released in the next few weeks. If it's not severe
enough to justify disrupting the versioning of snapshot maven
artifacts in branch-2, then we're clearly not in case (a).

I thought this was the result of extensive testing, and 2.0.4.1 was a
release to enable additional integration before 2.0.5. If we plan to
roll more releases as a subset of the bug fixes committed to branch-2
then just call it 2.0.5. Please make sure it- and any future,
intermediate release- is worth the disruption.

> Now, the -1: I am not clear about the justification. What exactly we expect to
> "work out"?

It's become fashionable to close threads and count votes in the middle
of the discussion. I changed my vote instead of trusting you. -C

> On Thu, May 30, 2013 at 01:48PM, Chris Douglas wrote:
>> On Thu, May 30, 2013 at 10:57 AM, Arun C Murthy <a...@hortonworks.com> wrote:
>> > Why not include MAPREDUCE-4211 as well rather than create one release per 
>> > patch?
>>
>> From Cos's description, it sounded like these were backports of fixes
>> to help Sqoop2 and fix some build issues. If it's not just to fixup
>> leftover bugs in 2.0.4 *once* so downstream projects can integrate
>> against 2.0.4.1, and this a release series, then I've completely
>> misunderstood the purpose.
>>
>> Cos, are you planning 2.0.4.2?
>>
>> > Also, this is the first time we are seeing a four-numbered scheme in 
>> > Hadoop. Why not call this 2.0.5-alpha?
>>
>> Good point. Since it contains only backports from branch-2, it would
>> make sense for it to be an intermediate release.
>>
>> I shouldn't have to say this, but I'm changing my vote to -1 while we
>> work this out. -C
>>
>> > On May 24, 2013, at 8:48 PM, Konstantin Boudnik wrote:
>> >
>> >> All,
>> >>
>> >> I have created a release candidate (rc0) for hadoop-2.0.4.1-alpha that I 
>> >> would
>> >> like to release.
>> >>
>> >> This is a stabilization release that includes fixed for a couple a of 
>> >> issues
>> >> discovered in the testing with BigTop 0.6.0 release candidate.
>> >>
>> >> The RC is available at: 
>> >> http://people.apache.org/~cos/hadoop-2.0.4.1-alpha-rc0/
>> >> The RC tag in svn is here: 
>> >> http://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/hadoop/common/tags/release-2.0.4.1-alpha-rc0
>> >>
>> >> The maven artifacts are available via repository.apache.org.
>> >>
>> >> Please try the release bits and vote; the vote will run for the usual 7 
>> >> days.
>> >>
>> >> Thanks for your voting
>> >>  Cos
>> >>
>> >
>> >

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