Hi Pritpal, Viktor, all,
sorry for chiming in, but your discussion reminds me of an idea that, I
hope I remember that correctly, Phil Barnett had many years ago.
Why not follow the roads of TeX/LaTex, PERL et al. and create a
comprehensive harbour archive network, i.e. a package system for contribs?
I remember a discussion about splitting off "contrib" from core Harbour
(also many years ago), and people feared at that time that "contrib"
would fall behind in development, so the split was not done.
I think the situation has changed significantly since then. Harbour is
stable and mature now, a very good and solid base for library
development. The focus of development is now more and more in "contrib",
correct me if I'm wrong.
"CHAN" could be integrated with hbIDE, for easy download, installation &
upgrade of libraries...
This way, core harbour would not be bloated and people might have an
easier way to start their own contribs, even if it was "only"
platform-specific or for a certain software environment...
Just my 2 cents,
Martin
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On 17.05.2010 17:52, Viktor Szakáts wrote:
Hi Pritpal,
Though it compiles fine with current Harbour and possibly with -DUNICODE
also but still it may require an overhaul. The style is sephagatti as it
was started after my first encounter with xHarbour in 2002 and
when Augusto Infante and Andy Wos committed What32 library.
So it is not Harbour standards strictly.
The library is heavily based on What32 which I have as unified with
this library with Wvn_* name space. As hbwin.lib has evoled to a
reasonable extent, many of the functions will have duplication
but because namespace is different, will not cause any harm.
It also uses C Structures so again it does not adhere to Harbour's
philosophy.
The areas of particular interest to users will be PageScript compatible
functions and PrintPreview mechanism which can be exploited
with gtwin also though these are more suitable for gtwvt and gtwvg.
Though there are a lot other convinient functions but probably
I think all can be done more or less with current Harbour.
Few components I will have to pull out like Graphics and Charts
because the code was given to me by Augusto Infante and later
revised by Andy Wos and I do not know if I am permitted to publish
that as open source.
Augusto or Andy, if you are reading this mail, please allow to do so.
Also I wil pull-out CT3 compatible COM_* components as these are now
available with Harbour anyway and also due to fact that I had contributed
this library to xhb.com and my professional ethics do not permit so.
Today, 17 May 2010, I have decided to put it under Harbour contribs.
But I want to retain vouch32 folder name in harbour/contrib/vouch32.
This is the only recognistion I need plus your willingness to polish
the code. I would have certainly be happy to polish it but due to
heavy involvement with hbQt+ direction, I cannot spare time onto that.
If group is willing I can start the process under harbour/contrib/vouch32.
Thanks a lot for your offer.
Unfortunately I'm not very positive about the inclusion in
contrib, having went through all the trouble with WHAT32
in the past.
Even with small Windows code, there is A LOT of work to make
it compile (see service and MAPI support for two examples)
and to make it work on all our supported environments and to
level it to Harbour standards. It also has to be maintained
by someone, otherwise it can easily become a build stopper
(as was with WHAT32 and as is sometimes with GTWVG).
Also Harbour contrib is already getting overbloated (both
in terms of size and build-time), so for VOUCH32, I'd like
to suggest to create hbmk2 make files for it and host it
in another repository. I'm sure it will be much easier and
most probably more convenient for everyone.
I'd suggest to remove '32' from the name. In case of Harbour,
I went to great pain to remove any "bitness" information
from all the files, suggesting the portable nature of our
(Windows) code.
Viktor
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