On Mon, Jul 6, 2015 at 2:34 PM, Mark H Weaver <m...@netris.org> wrote:

> David Hashe <david.ha...@dhashe.com> writes:
>
> > On Sun, Jul 5, 2015 at 2:24 PM, Amirouche Boubekki
> > <amirou...@hypermove.net> wrote:
> >
> >         I only tried to play mp3 and ogg. Ogg works. I did not try
> >         burning audio cds.
> >         I will try later today or tomorrow.
> >
> >
> > mp3 support requires gst-plugins-ugly, which includes nonfree and
> > patent-encumbered codecs. More information at
> > http://gstreamer.freedesktop.org/modules/gst-plugins-ugly.html
>
> There are MP3 decoders that are free software.  We should be able to
> support this, just like Debian does.  What about the gst-libav package?
>
> > As a side note, it appears that we do package some patent-encumbered
> > software, such as LAME, so I'm not sure what our stance is on software
> > patents themselves.
>
> See the section on "Patents" in the GNU FSDG
> <https://gnu.org/distros/free-system-distribution-guidelines.html>:
>
>   It is effectively impossible for free software developers and
>   distributors to know whether or not a given piece of software
>   infringes any patents: there are too many of them, they vary from
>   country to country, they're often worded so as to make it hard to tell
>   what they do or don't cover, and it isn't easy to tell which ones are
>   valid. Therefore, we don't generally ask free system distributions to
>   exclude software because of possible threats from patents. On the
>   other hand, we also don't object if a distributor chooses to omit some
>   software in order to avoid patent risk.
>
> We can include free software in GNU Guix, even if it faces possible
> patent threats in some countries.
>
>       Mark
>

Thanks for clarifying. Besides patents, my other concern was licensing.
Specifically, the page I linked about gst-plugins-ugly includes the
following:

    The license on either the plug-ins or the supporting libraries might
not be how we'd like.

Rather vague, but a bit worrying. However, you're right that Debian
includes it, as do Trisquel and Parabola (both free distributions), so I
agree that this is probably something we can include.

Thanks,
David

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