On Thursday 28 October 2010 13:48:17 John Emmas wrote: > On 28 Oct 2010, at 11:52, Neil Bird wrote: > > > > > So what are the curent issues with the Win32 GTK+ port? > > > > We have a cross-platform C++ class framework that we've developed at work, > > but it still relies on Windows MFC for the main GUI aspects. I've always > > anticipated that should we be able to move to a cross platform GUI as well > > as cross-platform core code (most of our systems are head-less Linux > > boxes), we'd want to plump for GTK+. > > > > I don't think Tor has any need to be beating himself up over gtk-win32. I > made exactly the same move about a year ago and would never go back to MFC > now. If I'm honest Neil, GTK2 does take a lot of getting used to if you've > come from an MFC background - but once you've gotten your head around GTK, it > really works very well indeed. I daresay there are problems - just like any > other technology - but for the kind of projects I'm involved in, GTK2 handles > them very nicely. Having said that, my apps don't tend to use 3D graphics or > anything particularly fancy. If you prefer C++ (like me) there's a handy > wrapper for GTK+, called gtkmm. It's part of the Gnome project and works > perfectly well. > > So where will you have problems...? As an MFC developer, am I right in > thinking you'll be using Visual Studio as your build environment? GTK+ and > some (SOME) of it's dependencies already come with VS build projects. But > don't expect this to be universal. Many dependencies only supply binaries > for Visual C++ 6. Unfortunately, VC++6 is hugely non-compliant and utterly > useless for building modern projects. You'll need to use at least VC++8 - > but mixing your VC++8 with the older VC++6 support libs is very much fraught > with problems. If you want to continue using Visual Studio as your Windows > IDE (which in many ways, I would recommend) you must be prepared to obtain > the source code for ALL your dependencies and to build the whole lot with the > same compiler. I'm in the process of doing that now for a project called > 'Ardour' which is probably the biggest project I've ever been involved in. > Building everything with VC++8 is possible but it's by no means easy. > > If you want an easier route you might like to consider MinGW or Cygwin as > your Windows build environment. You'll probably have an easier time with > those compilers (esp. MinGW) but the downside is that you'll be stuck with > the utterly dismal GDB debugger :-( For me, Microsoft's debugger is > unsurpassed and I've persevered with VC++ for that reason alone. > > So the choice is yours - ease of compilation or ease of debugging. Maybe Tor > can expand on what exactly are the deficiencies of gtk-win32. But in general > terms I don't think you've got much to be afraid of with GTK2 (except a steep > learning curve maybe, and a good deal of hard work!) > > John
Hi, Take a look at http://www.codeblocks.org/. There you'll find a IDE that can be installed both on linux and windows (and on windows comes with a bundled gcc compiler). For me it worked very well and even allowed to port projetcs from linux to windows with minimal effort. if you prefer a newer version of gcc you can find one with installer at http://tdm-gcc.tdragon.net/. Hope this helps. ZZ _______________________________________________ gtk-app-devel-list mailing list gtk-app-devel-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gtk-app-devel-list
