Hi Shunwan,

Thanks very much for your feedback, all duly noted & much appreciated.

Paolo


On 6/11/24 13:08, Zhuangshunwan wrote:
Hi Thomas and Paolo,

I also believe that the BMP Peer Summary message sent by the router to the BMP 
server is very useful for keeping the information synchronized between the 
router and the BMP server.

Best Regards,
Shunwan

-----Original Message-----
From: thomas.g...@swisscom.com [mailto:thomas.g...@swisscom.com]
Sent: Wednesday, November 6, 2024 6:40 PM
To: pa...@ntt.net; grow@ietf.org
Subject: [GROW] Re: Fwd: New Version Notification for
draft-lucente-grow-bmp-offline-00.txt

Dear Paolo and authors,

Thanks a lot. I just reviewed the document and find it for a network
operators, operating network analytics stacks, very useful.

The document abstract describes the aim of the document. Targeting the use
case of offline BMP data processing and in section 3 describing that the new
BMP message type is originated at the BMP monitoring station, data
collection.

I believe another very common use case can be covered as well. As stated, it
is very common that BGP peerings are very stable and peering state
informations might not persisted in a time series databases with limited data
retention. Have regular refreshes on BGP peering states is therefore very
helpful. Avoiding that the BGP peering state expires in the time series
database due to retention policy. In my opinion, these regular BGP peering
state refreshes could not only be originated from the BMP monitoring
station, but also from the router. This avoids that the BMP monitoring
station needs to cache, store the BMP message type peer_up in order to
track the state of the BGP peering as described in
https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-lucente-grow-bmp-offline-00#na
me-operational-considerations.

If you agree that Peer Summary messages can be originated from the router
as well, we want to consider the enablement and frequency to be
configurable through
https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-ietf-grow-bmp-yang and update
draft-lucente-grow-bmp-offline with the use case an possibility to originate
Peer Summary messages from the router.

Best wishes
Thomas

-----Original Message-----
From: Paolo Lucente <pa...@ntt.net>
Sent: Tuesday, November 5, 2024 6:55 PM
To: grow@ietf.org grow@ietf.org <grow@ietf.org>
Subject: [GROW] Fwd: New Version Notification for
draft-lucente-grow-bmp-offline-00.txt


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Dears,

A brief email to say about this initial effort we have just posted to make BMP
more off-wire friendly. I will briefly present around this at the Grow session
tomorrow. Appreciate as always thoughts, reviews and tomatoes.

Paolo


-------- Forwarded Message --------
Subject: New Version Notification for draft-lucente-grow-bmp-offline-00.txt
Date: Tue, 05 Nov 2024 10:48:38 -0800
From: internet-dra...@ietf.org
To: Camilo Cardona <cam...@ntt.net>, Luuk Hendriks <l...@nlnetlabs.nl>,
Paolo Lucente <pa...@ntt.net>

A new version of Internet-Draft draft-lucente-grow-bmp-offline-00.txt
has been
successfully submitted by Paolo Lucente and posted to the IETF repository.

Name:     draft-lucente-grow-bmp-offline
Revision: 00
Title:    Making BMP fruible offline
Date:     2024-11-05
Group:    Individual Submission
Pages:    6
URL:
https://www.ietf.org/archive/id/draft-lucente-grow-bmp-offline-00.txt
Status:   https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-lucente-grow-bmp-offline/
HTMLized:
https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-lucente-grow-bmp-offline


Abstract:

     BMP (BGP Monitoring Protocol) [RFC7854] is perfectly suited for real-
     time consumption but less ideal for off-wire historical purposes.
     The main issue is the dependence that parsing BGP Update PDUs has on
     knowing which capabilities have been agreed when establishing the BGP
     session with the peers, which could have happened long time ago
     (days, weeks, months).

     This document defines a new optional BMP message type, called Peer
     Summary, that carries a summary of the established BGP sessions along
     with their capabilities and that is intended to be injected in the
     BMP feed at configurable time intervals and/or ad-hoc whenever it is
     felt necessary to improve fruition of BMP data offline.



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